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Originally Posted by tambok2012 View Post

people will buy this if it can reach 6ghz water cooled below 60c


Six whole giggle hertz
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At 6 gigahurts it will perform at what level compared to 3770k? 4.5?
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At 6 gigahurts it will perform at what level compared to 3770k? 4.5?


it matches the 3770k on most multi threaded tasks when both are stock, But at 6 gigglehurts it'll probably stomp on a 4.8ghz 3770k in multi thread, but at 4.8-5.0 a 3770k would beat a 6ghz FX 8350 in Single threaded, Or atleast they'd trade blows
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At 6 gigahurts it will perform at what level compared to 3770k? 4.5?

Depends. It would still lose to a stock 3770k in Cinebench single-threaded and would compete with a ~5GHz 3770k in Cinebench multi-threaded.
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FX57 was about $800... And pretty damn successful.
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Originally Posted by KSIMP88 View Post

FX57 was about $800... And pretty damn successful.

Because it completely obliterated the competition, and was therefore worth it.

This will be a novelty item at best, and it's performance can't even begin to compare to an overclocked 3930k, which costs ~$600.

But nothing is confirmed, so we'll just have to wait and see what actually happens.
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The FX-57 came extremely late in S939s life cycle, was only single core, and could be matched or beaten by the A64 X2s or even the Pentium M Dothans of the time, for less money.

It was no more worth it then than an 800 dollar, binned, FX-8350 would be now.

800 dollar consumer CPUs are novelty items that only appeal to a very narrow niche.
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post #128 of 254
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Originally Posted by Artikbot View Post

Why? 5GHz on air means it's a particularly non-leaky part, which means it will use considerably less power than the average production run FX-8350 at the same clockspeeds.

Because its an AMD, and exaggerating AMDs weaker points just enough means you get brownie points on OCN/karma on reddit.
600w PSU requirement? Too realistic for a 5Ghz octocore, plus a full system...600w just for the CPU? LOLZ GUIZE
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You people underestimate good air coolers a LOT. Phanteks heatsink (which is the highest end heatsink out there) with a couple of really good fans CAN and WILL get 5GHz if the chip is decent. Im living proof.

People seem to forget a D14 is virtually equal, if not a little better, than a H100.
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i7 3930k is 570$ and i7 3770k is 330$ on newegg and there is not much gap between i7 3930k and 3770k from results I see in Anandtech.

AMD's "Centurion" is most likely cores are probavly based around Piledriver+ cores with more tweaks and some rearrangements that differs it from Piledriver and Piledriver+ while the "Centurion" CPU won't cost 795$ alone, it will come as a kit in a protective box with high quality thermal paste and we need to take in account that is limited so its not mass produced and they won't profit from it. They probavly produce "centurion" limited line up at a loss.

This is for marketing guys, nothing else.

I'm going to guess that if Centurion is an 8 core/4 module Piledriver+ and not just highly binned Piledriver that we'll also see a Piledriver+ Opteron, maybe an updated AM3+ chip too...It wouldn't be worth the PR at all to release this chip otherwise.
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I find it hard to believe that this story is true at 5ghz no FX chip is on the same playing field with the i7-3960X, even at 5ghz. Anyone with a brain would just buy the 3960X or 3930K for that kind of money rolleyes.gif.

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Not like this is made for extreme OCers to break records, nah, it's definitely AMD just trying to make a chip to compete with the high-end Intels. Not like all of these chips will get clocked up to 8Ghz+ on LN2 while a 3960X sits around 6Ghz tops iirc.
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This is what I'm thinking is a fair indication of it's value:

Let say I purchased an off-the-shelf FX-8350 and tested for 5ghz capablility, If it couldnt hang then I would RMA it playing return shipping + 15% restocking fee. (but I would be getting refunded on the actual purchase value).

Do you guys think I would find an FX-8350 capable of 5ghz on air before I wasted a total of $795?

Yes, the FX series (Especially recent ones) love OCing. 5Ghz on air is most likely just a side-effect of extreme binning or something.
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At 6 gigahurts it will perform at what level compared to 3770k? 4.5?

In gaming, yes.

In 7zip? A stock FX-8350 beats a stock i7.
In video transcoding? They trade blows.
In most non-gaming real world tasks? The FX is a little below the i7 but above the i5.

So you'd have a 6Ghz FX destroying the i7 in your real-world tasks and matching it in gaming while using a lot more power.
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I'm going to guess that if Centurion is an 8 core/4 module Piledriver+ and not just highly binned Piledriver that we'll also see a Piledriver+ Opteron, maybe an updated AM3+ chip too...It wouldn't be worth the PR at all to release this chip otherwise.

I highly doubt this.

It's not worth it to respin piledriver, except perhaps beyond the standard errata fixes that come with any new stepping, with steamroller not being that far out.

PR is way cheaper than redesigning and building new processors.
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It makes absolutely no sense to release a completely new, improved chip only as a$800 part that needs to be highly binned.

If they had improved PDs they would sell them at all appropriate price points. Unless the chip is a colossal failure yields/costs wise of course.
 
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2x 5870, 5850, 5830, 5770 2x 3870x2, 3870 GTX Titan, GTX 480, GTX 590 GTX 285, GTX 260, 4x 9800GT, 8800GTX 
RAMHard DriveCoolingCooling
4x4GB vengeance, 2x4GB predatorX, 2x1GB OCZ DDR2 Intel X25-M 80GB LD PC-V2 SS Phase Change OCN Marksman 
CoolingCoolingOSPower
2x old tek slims (GPU) Various watercooling stuff win7, winxp AX1200 
Case
test bench / cardboard box 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
[i7 5960X @ 4.8GHz] [Rampage V Extreme] [Titan 1400MHz (1500MHz bench)] [Various] 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
[250GB 840EVO +2x SpinpointF3 1TB RAID0] [LD PC-V2 SS Phase Change] [XSPC X2O 750 pump/res] [Monsta 360 full copper + EK XT 360 + XT 240] 
MonitorPowerCaseAudio
[Crossover 27Q LED-P 1440p+ASUS 1200p+LG 1080p] [Corsair AX1200] [Dimastech Easy v3.0] [Sennheiser HD558s] 
CPUCPUMotherboardGraphics
FX 8320, FX 8350, Phenom II x2 555BE i7 3930K, i7 860, i7 4770K, 68x Celeron D CVF, commando, 2x RIVE, Z87X-OC Asus 4870x2, Sapphire 4870 
GraphicsGraphicsGraphicsGraphics
2x 5870, 5850, 5830, 5770 2x 3870x2, 3870 GTX Titan, GTX 480, GTX 590 GTX 285, GTX 260, 4x 9800GT, 8800GTX 
RAMHard DriveCoolingCooling
4x4GB vengeance, 2x4GB predatorX, 2x1GB OCZ DDR2 Intel X25-M 80GB LD PC-V2 SS Phase Change OCN Marksman 
CoolingCoolingOSPower
2x old tek slims (GPU) Various watercooling stuff win7, winxp AX1200 
Case
test bench / cardboard box 
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