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That's true but Intel has done the same thing in the past with the first EE redface.gif and people still bought it even though it was way slower than K8 ... But it was very very fair that FX of the old was priced similarly but it wasn't a issue, namely the FX of the old was way way way faster than any Netburst was
I think AMD might be following early Intel's footsteps, don't you think?

Yeah you're right, since these are coming in with super low quantities, then maybe they could get away with it. I don't know about you, but back in the original FX days, I didn't even look at the Intel options.

It's just that for $800 you could get a 3930K + Mobo ( almost ), which is a way better buy. ( I get these won't be targeted at traditional rigs and all. )
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just read article....
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Here's the kicker; our sources indicate that this limited-edition chip is set to cost a whopping $795 - this is not a typo! Yup, back to the pricing of FX chips of old. Is there any way that you, the readers, can countenance such pricing for an architecture that's been in the doldrums of late?

whoa..headscratch.gif
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If the supply is low enough, they will sell at any price.

These are novelty items, and it won't matter if a 3930k is 300 dollars less for more performance, or that you could buy nine FX-8350s, keep the best one, sell the remaining eight at a discount, and wind up with effectively the same thing.
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Yeah you're right, since these are coming in with super low quantities, then maybe they could get away with it. I don't know about you, but back in the original FX days, I didn't even look at the Intel options.

Back in the original FX days, I didn't look at the FXes either, they were rip offs.

My mobile Athlon 64s and lower end Opterons cost a fifth of the dollars and often matched the FXes.
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Yeah you're right, since these are coming in with super low quantities, then maybe they could get away with it. I don't know about you, but back in the original FX days, I didn't even look at the Intel options.

It's just that for $800 you could get a 3930K + Mobo ( almost ), which is a way better buy. ( I get these won't be targeted at traditional rigs and all. )
But the 3930k won't be breaking any clockspeed records though tongue.gif
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just read article....
whoa..headscratch.gif
When the first EE came out it was slower than the FX of the old but many people still bought it, in fact it outsold the FX. Just because it's Intel isn't it? smile.gif
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Yeah you're right, since these are coming in with super low quantities, then maybe they could get away with it. I don't know about you, but back in the original FX days, I didn't even look at the Intel options.

It's just that for $800 you could get a 3930K + Mobo ( almost ), which is a way better buy. ( I get these won't be targeted at traditional rigs and all. )
But the 3930k won't be breaking any clockspeed records though tongue.gif
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just read article....
whoa..headscratch.gif
When the first EE came out it was slower than the FX of the old but many people still bought it, in fact it outsold the FX. Just because it's Intel isn't it? smile.gif
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When the first EE came out it was slower than the FX of the old but many people still bought it, in fact it outsold the FX. Just because it's Intel isn't it? smile.gif

They traded blows (EE won more often in content creation, but the FX-51 won more often in games and scientific apps), but yeah, many people bought them on nothing more than brand recognition/loyalty...just as many still do.

Not that the FX was at all a good value, however. The FX-51 was about 5% faster than an A64 3200+, yet cost nearly 100% more. It didn't OC any better either.
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taken from that little bit of an article I have questions.....

1.) so these are basically the highest binned FX-8350's (figure of speech since based on Vishera) @ 5.0GHz.?
2.) how much overclocking headroom on air beyond the 5.0GHz barrier.?
3.) TDP / power consumption / etc...?
4.) based on Vishera but what if any enhancements were implemented.?
4a.) if none then this really is a 'super' binned FX-8350..
5.) Centurion huh, LOL... GTX Titan hurts you (AMD / Radeon) guys bad .. tongue.gif
5a.) couldn't think of any other name.?
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795 dollars for something that probably isn't even good as intel. biggrin.gif

Doesn't Intel still own in the single threads performance which means Amd still hasn't caught up? Also, I'm pretty certain some of you that have great Intel rigs are able to hit 5ghz or close to it with better single thread performance too.
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If the supply is low enough, they will sell at any price.

These are novelty items, and it won't matter if a 3930k is 300 dollars less for more performance, or that you could buy nine FX-8350s, keep the best one, sell the remaining eight at a discount, and wind up with effectively the same thing.
Back in the original FX days, I didn't look at the FXes either, they were rip offs.

My mobile Athlon 64s and lower end Opterons cost a fifth of the dollars and often matched the FXes.

I didn't claim to buy FX chips either, my point was for a period of time I'm guessing 2000 - 2006, all I ever bought were AMD chips. wink.gif
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Doesn't Intel still own in the single threads performance which means Amd still hasn't caught up?

Though important, single threaded performance is far from everything. AMD would gladly sacrifice the single threaded performance crown in order to decisively best Intel's multi-threaded performance in a similar die size.
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I didn't claim to buy FX chips either, my point was for a period of time I'm guessing 2000 - 2006, all I ever bought were AMD chips. wink.gif

Yeah from 1999-2005 I didn't have a single Intel chip in one of my own new builds.

The K6-2/3 was an incredible value, and Athlon, Athlon 64, then Athlon 64 X2/Opteron performance were impossible for Intel to match at anywhere near the same price.

Core 2 was a game changer though. My first S775 setup with a 100 dollar DFI Blood Iron and a 70 dollar Pentium E2140 (which was capable of a 100% OC, 24/7 stable, on the stock cooler), kicked the crap out of my Opteron 170 @ 2.8GHz...and that was the end of AMD's glory days. 2006 was the year when Intel's weakest dual-core part of the generation could best AMD's top FX.
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5820K @ 4.3/3.6GHz core/uncore, 1.225/1.2v Gigabyte X99 SOC Champion (F22n) 2x Sapphire R9 290X Tri-X OC New Edition (10036... 4x4GiB Crucial @ 2667, 12-11-12-27-T1, 1.37v 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Plextor M6e 128GB (fw 1.05) M.2 (PCI-E 2.0 2x) 2x Crucial M4 256GB 4x WD Scorpio Black 500GB Cooler Master Nepton 280L 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 BenQ BL3200PT Filco Majestouch Tenkeyless (MX Brown) Corsair RM1000x 
CaseMouseAudio
Fractal Design Define R4 Logitech G402 Realtek ALC1150 + M-Audio AV40 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
X5670 @ 4.4/3.2GHz core/uncore, 1.36 vcore, 1.2... Gigabyte X58A-UD5 r2.0 w/FF3mod10 BIOS Reference R9 290X w/Stilt's MLU 1000e / 1375m E... 2x Samsung MV-3V4G3D/US @ 2000, 10-11-11-30-T1,... 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
1x Crucial BLT4G3D1608ET3LX0 @ 2000, 10-11-11-3... OCZ (Toshiba) Trion 150 120GB Hyundai Sapphire 120GB 3x Hitachi Deskstar 7k1000.C 1TB 
CoolingOSPowerCase
Noctua NH-D14 Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 Antec TP-750 Fractal Design R5 
Audio
ASUS Xonar DS 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-6800K @ 4.3/3.5GHz core/uncore, 1.36/1.2v ASRock X99 OC Formula (P3.10) GTX 780 (temporary) 4x4GiB Crucial DDR4-2400 @ 11-13-12-28-T2, 1.33v 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Intel 600p 256GB NVMe 2x HGST Travelstar 7k1000 1TB Corsair H55 (temporary) Windows Server 2016 Datacenter 
PowerCase
Seasonic SS-860XP2 Corsair Carbide Air 540 
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