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Originally Posted by dejanh View Post

There better be some sort of jammer installed on planes, like, yesterday. This is a huge problem, and that is an understatement.

That'll only do so much good.
A lot of planes are running legacy systems that are impossible to update/patch.
post #12 of 48
How in the HELLLLL do you:

1. Build a multi-million dollar plane
2. Know it's going to have people with freaking wireless phones on it.
3. Give it unsecured wireless ANYTHING

and finally

4. NOT LOCK THE FREAKING CRAP DOWN *********************....

sry

lol

Granted I get it that some of these systems were created before the modern smartphone.....but it seems kinda serious.
Edited by Exidous - 4/12/13 at 8:06am
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TSA bulletin - Good news! You can now take small knives on as carry on.

Bad news. We're taking your phones, tablets, laptops, watches, iPods and handheld games consoles. Just in case.
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Really?

COME ON!

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Who even does that? Who just leaves critical systems unsecured?

This.
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That's a heck of an oversight.
    
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Who even does that? Who just leaves critical systems unsecured?

You'd be surprised.

Cars have the same problem. Onboard computers get more advanced, and have more connectivity (ie bluetooth, wifi, 3g onboard). But they have absolutely no security to speak of. None. High-end cars that have drive-by-wire, steer-by-wire and stop-by-wire, it's not outside the realm of possibility that someone might take control of such a car by remote.


I recall a blog post from a Windows or IE developer, that mentioned how only just recently, they started building security into the core of their products. Blog is probably about 10 years old now. I know, it's MS, no surprise there. The surprise is that such an important and highly targeted system could make it into the new millennium and still consider security to be an afterthought? If Microsoft waited that long, I don't want to know how long others will wait.
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You'd be surprised.

Cars have the same problem. Onboard computers get more advanced, and have more connectivity (ie bluetooth). But they have absolutely no security to speak of. None. High-end cars that have drive-by-wire, steer-by-wire and stop-by-wire, it's not outside the realm of possibility that someone might take control of such a car by remote.


Thank God I drive an '03 Marauder, an '09 F-150 and ride Harley's ('47 Knucklehead and '06 Fatboy). I don't have to deal with any of that garbage.
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Originally Posted by Exidous View Post

How in the HELLLLL do you:

1. Build a multi-million dollar plane
2. Know it's going to have people with freaking wireless phones on it.
3. Give it unsecured wireless ANYTHING

and finally

4. NOT LOCK THE FREAKING CRAP DOWN *********************....

sry

lol

Granted I get it that some of these systems were created before the modern smartphone.....but it seems kinda serious.

The problem is that there are no requirements in DO-178B (used by the FAA to certify software for flight worthiness) for encryption on message protocols, considering most messages run on hard lines in the plane. Wireless devices weren't as prevalent the last time DO-178 was updated. I haven't looked through DO-178C as it isn't really used yet (if its even out) so they may have put something in there.

I agree this needs to be fixed. Any wireless protocol used should have a way to be secured, especially those used on airplanes.
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Read this in the post the other day, apparently he used a simulation program to test this with and real life aircraft are protected in the final versions of the software.

It would take "minimal" manipulation of this hack to exploit real aircraft they say but... who knows?
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