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How can you run a benchmark with minimal usage? I have noticed it when opening files and programs period.

Im not sure. but how "fast" are you talking about? I never have problems opening files and programs... no SSD. Overclocked but will throttle down to 1600mhz when my CPU is not in load.... How are you sure that the CPU is running at 1600mhz for that "split second" you are opening a program? Could it be possible that the CPU immediately returns to full overclock frequency for the milliseconds it needs the CPU to do an operation... then goes back to 1600mhz (but you do not see it as it happens so fast so you think you are at 1600mhz all the time).

Ive never had a problem with my CPU going down to 1600mhz at idle. your OC should be stable to begin with...if youre crashing in games and getting instability with an overclock in the first place; shouldnt that be the source of your problems?
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Yes there is, I have noticed this. Programs open faster because there it'st not running at 1600MHz.

 

I have the 2500K (inferior to the 3570K) and I see and feel absolutely no difference when mine's at 100% (and verified by CPU-Z). I'm referring to having the both the clock and the voltage at 100%.

 

 

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Also more stability and again if you can't read I have the Intel Tuning plan.

 

If I can't read? That's kind of rude.

 

 

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Yes there is, I have noticed this. Programs open faster because there it'st not running at 1600MHz. Also more stability and again if you can't read I have the Intel Tuning plan. I get one free swap. What do I care if it doesn't last longer? I want to see how long it will last with constant oc on.

 

Yep, and that new CPU could be a horrible overclocker. So, I would care, but that's just me. Not only that, but I wouldn't want to have to do all of that physical work replacing the CPU. Not only that, but I wouldn't want to be without my computer for however long it would be. That's just me though because I need mine every day.

 

Finally, I have a 44W increase while idling if I have both the clock and the voltage at 100% vs. 1600 MHz and approximately 1.0V.


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So am I. It still takes time regardless and I have noticed the speed when opening files. 0 lag as opposed to few seconds delay when there's a lot of info, such as my storage drive which has over 1gb on it.

 

Then there's something wrong because there should be absolutely no difference.

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I have all inclusive? No extra costs? My room isnt getting any warmer? I can open a window or have ac on? Again no worry about hydro? AND HOW OFTEN HAVE I SAID I HAVE INTEL TUNING PLAN?

Ok... you are more fortunate than others. This website caters to many people around the world. You are spreading misinformation by saying your programs "open" faster "visually" while running your processor 100% 24/7 there is no proof to back up your claims.

So what that you have the intel tuning plan you spent 30 bucks so you can run your processor at full speed at a voltage that will never kill it.

Nice.

I'll say it again. Placebo.
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post #15 of 68
I really don't see what the OP is getting. I myself don't really notice any difference as far as speed goes regardless of what I do, unless I peg the GPU and CPU at or I am moving a lot of data around (or both).
 
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post #16 of 68
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Ok... you are more fortunate than others. This website caters to many people around the world. You are spreading misinformation by saying your programs "open" faster "visually" while running your processor 100% 24/7 there is no proof to back up your claims.

So what that you have the intel tuning plan you spent 30 bucks so you can run your processor at full speed at a voltage that will never kill it.

Nice.

I'll say it again. Placebo.

 

This.

 

Also, and I will keep repeating myself until I'm heard: if you're noticing that much of a difference, then there's something wrong because there shouldn't be any noticeable difference. Therefore, I think that perhaps your system isn't stable with your CPU at 4.6 GHz.

 

What have you done to test your system's stability?

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post #17 of 68
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Yes there is, I have noticed this. Programs open faster and files load faster because it's not running at 1600MHz. Also more stability without different volts all the time. And again if you can't read I have the Intel Tuning plan. I get one free swap. What do I care if it doesn't last longer? I want to see how long it will last with constant oc on.

You're not totally wrong, but you are correct for the wrong reason. The CPU is not what is slowing you down, it is the power saving features offered by the balanced plan and their effect on your SSD. Disabling C-states either in BIOS or through Windows by using the high performance plan obviously fixes the issue as you discovered, but it has nothing in particular to do with your CPU clock speed.

Generally C1E is the C-state to disable to fix the issue while still maintaining the ability to use sleep and EIST to throttle the CPU down at idle. This issue seems to effect mainly Sandy/Ivy machines, similar to the S3 sleep bug.
post #18 of 68
Running fixed over offset does not mean the processor is always running at 100%, the difference at idle is not much at all.
The power consumption difference is about 20-40 watts of power, turning off an unused light bulb will have more impact on the electric bill, & the life of the cpu will barely be affected.
There is some power savings with offset, but not enough to actually worry about, & the lifespan of the chip should barely be affected.

So while offset may be preferable for energy efficiency if the rig idles a lot, running fixed isn't anything to be concerned about.
    
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Again...

 

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Yes there is, I have noticed this. Programs open faster because there it'st not running at 1600MHz.

 

I have the 2500K (inferior to the 3570K) and I see and feel absolutely no difference when mine's at 100% (and verified by CPU-Z). I'm referring to having the both the clock and the voltage at 100%.

 

 

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Also more stability and again if you can't read I have the Intel Tuning plan.

 

If I can't read? That's kind of rude.

 

 

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Yes there is, I have noticed this. Programs open faster because there it'st not running at 1600MHz. Also more stability and again if you can't read I have the Intel Tuning plan. I get one free swap. What do I care if it doesn't last longer? I want to see how long it will last with constant oc on.

 

Yep, and that new CPU could be a horrible overclocker. So, I would care, but that's just me. Not only that, but I wouldn't want to have to do all of that physical work replacing the CPU. Not only that, but I wouldn't want to be without my computer for however long it would be. That's just me though because I need mine every day.

 

Finally, I have a 44W increase while idling if I have both the clock and the voltage at 100% vs. 1600 MHz and approximately 1.0V.

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Running fixed over offset does not mean the processor is always running at 100%, the difference at idle is not much at all.
The power consumption difference is about 20-40 watts of power, turning off an unused light bulb will have more impact on the electric bill, & the life of the cpu will barely be affected.
There is some power savings with offset, but not enough to actually worry about, & the lifespan of the chip should barely be affected.

So while offset may be preferable for energy efficiency if the rig idles a lot, running fixed isn't anything to be concerned about.

Where am I talkin about running fixed over offset? Im not talking about BIOS settings. I'm talkin about features in your OS
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