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MSE isn't that bad. If you look at the actually numbers presented here AV-TEST you will see that MSE is effective against all known threats, a tad behind the average in recent known threats, which is just MS being slower to update virus definitions than other companies. What MSE is bad at are Zero-Day threats. MS compared to a company based around Malware prevention is expected to be worse, for obvious reasons. However MSE has practically no false positives, while very aggressive AV programs will have false positives.

If you combine MSE with a Firewall and then run Malwarebytes or another cleaner program every now and then most users should be well protected.
Paid for programs I would hope to be better than MSE, that is why you spend money on them tongue.gif
To say MSE is awful I think is not correct when you look at the test data and not just the overall number rating they give it.
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That's terrible advice. MSE is consistently the worst performing anti-virus package (to the point of failing to meet minimum standards for basic certification). What's more, no AV is fail proof, in fact quite the opposite as even the non-free suites are bad at picking up new threats (and the freebie's are next to useless). Where AV protection comes into their own is picking up on specific types of known threats. Also, suggesting anything is fail proof (even when it is) is bad advice as the worst thing you can do in IT is be complacent about security.
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Originally Posted by Aparition View Post

MSE isn't that bad. If you look at the actually numbers presented here AV-TEST you will see that MSE is effective against all known threats, a tad behind the average in recent known threats, which is just MS being slower to update virus definitions than other companies. What MSE is bad at are Zero-Day threats. MS compared to a company based around Malware prevention is expected to be worse, for obvious reasons. However MSE has practically no false positives, while very aggressive AV programs will have false positives.

If you combine MSE with a Firewall and then run Malwarebytes or another cleaner program every now and then most users should be well protected.
Paid for programs I would hope to be better than MSE, that is why you spend money on them tongue.gif
To say MSE is awful I think is not correct when you look at the test data and not just the overall number rating they give it.

It's the worst performing suite in an industry where mistakes are costly. In my opinion that's unacceptable and qualifies for negative adjectives
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It's the worst performing suite in an industry where mistakes are costly. In my opinion that's unacceptable and qualifies for negative adjectives

That is true. Are most tests still conducted with 32 bit systems? Or can ratings now be similarly compared for x64 systems now?
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Malwarebytes & Spybot will handle everything.

Good know how about what to download & where to visit is the biggest help. Add adblock to the browsers you use, with WOT & you're good.
 
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AVG have very good repuation for PC security, But I recommend Microsoft Security Essentials as it does exactly the same, and is comp[aitable with more applications and is pretty much fail proof

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See, this is why the "reputation" system here is flawed.
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Bitdefender Total security 2013 is Extremely reliable for me =D
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post #18 of 23
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Malwarebytes & Spybot will handle everything.

Good know how about what to download & where to visit is the biggest help. Add adblock to the browsers you use, with WOT & you're good.
This is also untrue. Spybot has not been good for a long time now and malwarebytes is still good but it is not what it used to be. Combofix is much better at removing rootkits and more stubborn viruses. Common sense is the best think you can have for virus protection.
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This is also untrue. Spybot has not been good for a long time now and malwarebytes is still good but it is not what it used to be. Combofix is much better at removing rootkits and more stubborn viruses. Common sense is the best think you can have for virus protection.

Even common sense is useless as legitimate sites get booby-trapped all the time.

Disabling Flash and Java plugins (eg Flash Block) will go a long way though. Same for PDFs (if you use PDF plugins) too.
post #20 of 23
Thing about AV is that, whatever you use, you will consider as "good", "no problem" and "excellent" until you get a virus. Since I first went online in like 1998, I have been using ZoneAlarm, Norton, AVG and a few more but still got a virus every now and then. Now I'm using MSE and "common sense", haven't had a virus in years, BUT that doesn't mean MSE is better than the others (and I'm sure it isn't wink.gif ) . I do appreciate its low use of system resources though and it's working for me.
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