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There isn't a hard 300W limit.

I've had my card reach 131% power (~330W) during 3dm11.

The success also isn't all over the place, the bioses are. If you use the correct stuff your card won't throttle as long as you don't hit the temperature or power limits, which for power can be adjusted to accept way more than you will ever need (I have mine at 500W max atm).


your card is pulling 330w because of natural inefficiency. It falls right on point of an expected 90% efficiency. So you are most likely hitting 300w with the extra 30w as waste.

from a bios builder over at evga:

"The card has a hard limit of 300W, beyond that it will throttle no matter what. Naennons bios set default power at 260W (first throttling point) and max at 300W (no point in setting higher than 300W as that is hard max). This resolved 90% of my throttling (my card is leaky and power hungry) but most cards it resolved all throttling in normal benchmarks. I had to alter Naennons default power to 285W to stop all throttling using common 3dmark benchmarks/games on mine. Now only if go above 285W will I start to get throttling, no sensible 3D benchmark or current game have I seen throttling now."

http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=1891166&mpage=1

and another

" His all have def power at 260W, which will keep 95% gpus from throttling during benchmarks and gaming, except very leaky ones like mine, so I increased to 280W. The max limits set higher than 300W, will be same as hard limit of 300W."
     
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Well I dunno, I throttled with the naennon BIOS (raised limits, the not the original one) in 3dmark11 when highly OC'd. After I switched to my current BIOS I haven't seen any power related throttling at all (only temps when I leave the fan at auto and try to push high OC's for gaming in which case the thing doesn't ramp up quickly enough to lower the temps --> throttle).

I'm currently on the original pre-release engineering BIOS that was used by kingpin and andre yang...

What would be much stranger than my card going over 300W is the card having a 300W limit and my card just out of the blue maxing out without any throttling at exactly that limit. Also where are people pulling the 300W one from if the measuring system can say 330W, how do they then know how efficient is the power delivery system?

There is also this card with a vmod:

Are you going to tell me that that's not going above 300W if I'm already hitting it at 1250MHz or so?
 
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super restrictive block + more expensive than buying a titan and an ek block + weak boost clock = lame

though I did expect this.

My Titan + EK block + EK back plate cost me almost $1150 ($1000 + $115 + $30). I think the price is fair for a factory assembly. But, I just love the look of the EK acrylic cover blocks + back plates, so I ever get a second, I'll just be doing that again.
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My Titan + EK block + EK back plate cost me almost $1150 ($1000 + $115 + $30). I think the price is fair for a factory assembly. But, I just love the look of the EK acrylic cover blocks + back plates, so I ever get a second, I'll just be doing that again.

I agree. I think the $1170 price is fair. The Hydro Copper block is an EVGA branded Swiftech Komodo, which retails for $155, plus the HC comes with 4 EVGA branded Swiftech Lok-Seal fittings (even though you will likely only use two of them), which are between $4 and 5 (originally they were more than that so hats off to Swiftech for dropping the prices). The only real advantage is that you don't get an air cooler with it so you pay some for the name in that respect.

The HC is an excellent performing block. It is quite restrictive but it's not the worst out there, and it performs within a degree or so of the best. Not to mention that it fully covers and protects all of the cards components and come with a backplate, so it is quite strong. Owning ass 7970 with a broken capacitor, I can very much appreciate that.
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Well I dunno, I throttled with the naennon BIOS (raised limits, the not the original one) in 3dmark11 when highly OC'd. After I switched to my current BIOS I haven't seen any power related throttling at all (only temps when I leave the fan at auto and try to push high OC's for gaming in which case the thing doesn't ramp up quickly enough to lower the temps --> throttle).

I'm currently on the original pre-release engineering BIOS that was used by kingpin and andre yang...

What would be much stranger than my card going over 300W is the card having a 300W limit and my card just out of the blue maxing out without any throttling at exactly that limit. Also where are people pulling the 300W one from if the measuring system can say 330W, how do they then know how efficient is the power delivery system?

There is also this card with a vmod:

Are you going to tell me that that's not going above 300W if I'm already hitting it at 1250MHz or so?

Is kingpins bios readily available or no? because if it truly is a pre-release, engineering sample, then obviously it doesn't have the same limits the current bios' people are basing off of the stock one. Which, in all honesty, is bit like sandbagging if not everyone can get a hold of it.

Considering the context of my first comment here, talking about throttling and waterblocks, unless this bios that lets you hit over 300w is widely available, its a moot point.

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I agree. I think the $1170 price is fair. The Hydro Copper block is an EVGA branded Swiftech Komodo, which retails for $155, plus the HC comes with 4 EVGA branded Swiftech Lok-Seal fittings (even though you will likely only use two of them), which are between $4 and 5 (originally they were more than that so hats off to Swiftech for dropping the prices). The only real advantage is that you don't get an air cooler with it so you pay some for the name in that respect.

The HC is an excellent performing block. It is quite restrictive but it's not the worst out there, and it performs within a degree or so of the best. Not to mention that it fully covers and protects all of the cards components and come with a backplate, so it is quite strong. Owning ass 7970 with a broken capacitor, I can very much appreciate that.
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My Titan + EK block + EK back plate cost me almost $1150 ($1000 + $115 + $30). I think the price is fair for a factory assembly. But, I just love the look of the EK acrylic cover blocks + back plates, so I ever get a second, I'll just be doing that again.

I understand we are talking peanuts in terms of actual cash difference, but if i had to run multiple blocks in a loop, I would not want a hc block. The restriction isn't about the HC itself, it is how it effects the entire loop.

And yes, the ek blocks do have a bit more styling and no large sticker slapped on the from
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Even if you got his BIOS, the card was hard-modded
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Is kingpins bios readily available or no? because if it truly is a pre-release, engineering sample, then obviously it doesnt have the same limits the current bios' people are basing off of the stock one. Which, in all honesty, is bit like sandbagging if not everyone can get a hold of it.

Yes it is available: http://downloads.hwbot.org/downloads/VGABIOS/GK110XOC.rom

And when you boot up it clearly says engineering bios, not for release. Has been online for weeks now.
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Even if you got his BIOS, the card was hard-modded

some of the runs were with cards that only had vmods on them, no zombifying (kingpin's 4-way runs) so they most likely also didn't have hard mods for power limit. At least it didn't look like it the last time I saw some pics.
 
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I like to do it myself + you get the amazing stock cooler. That alone is worth $100.
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Title says it all.

EVGA released first factory overclocked GTX Titan at 928mhz base and 980mhz boost with a hydro copper waterblock and backplate. Comes in signature and regular model.
Now someone please order me one and send it to Australia. Lol. Hate that we are not able to order these things or from EVGA direct.

http://www.evga.com/Products/ProductList.aspx?type=0&family=GeForce+TITAN+Series+Family&chipset=GTX+TITAN

Look, they only allow 1 titan per account holder! They should up it to two at least.
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Yes it is available: http://downloads.hwbot.org/downloads/VGABIOS/GK110XOC.rom

And when you boot up it clearly says engineering bios, not for release. Has been online for weeks now.
some of the runs were with cards that only had vmods on them, no zombifying (kingpin's 4-way runs) so they most likely also didn't have hard mods for power limit. At least it didn't look like it the last time I saw some pics.

the question then becomes, why do we see 300w splattered about as a limit if this is available and working? I get people dont want to risk their card on it, but i would expect to see some watercooling kids at least benching these things @ 350w.
     
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