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Don't you love the clean look of just a TV on the wall?

This looks clean enough for me





If you're more picky with size, you can pick an Android mini PC for really cheap and have better capabilities than any TV in an even smaller footprint.


   
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What OP fail are you talking about!? The concept of DLNA is to be able to stream from the device itself lol

I'm sure you're one of those guys who bought a bad TV, and then spent unnecessary money on an HTPC. Don't you love the clean look of just a TV on the wall?

Fail for using anything built into the TV. A TV is a TV, why manufactures try and toss crappy features into the TV's when their are plenty of devices that do a better job is beyond me. Plus most TV's only have optical out for 2 channel(unless it is already encoded and then can do 5.1), if your using your TV as the source how will one get the 5.1 from the movie sent to their receiver? Most TV's will mix it down to stereo if it isn't already encoded that way. Not getting 5.1 from the movies I download would make watching some of those movies pointless. Unless your TV has a HDMI out for audio only then really the TV is nothing more then a half assed player that should only be used by the few that want to.

I have never heard the sound my TV makes, mainly because TV speakers suck and isn't worth my short time on this earth to listen to crap sound. From day one their has been at least two speakers next to my screen.
So really I like the look of a TV rear mounted with speakers surrounding it. But if you already have a receiver in the mix why not get a add a HTPC to match it. Really the Receiver + HTPC + ps3 + 360 on the media center rack is quite common for some, maybe not the htpc but the rest sure are.


Also DLNA is just a networking standard, Your still doing all the decoding on the device itself. Still is dependent on the source file if you can play it or not and how well your device decodes. For Quality and performance reasons you would be better off with one of those cheap android stick with XBMC installed, though for 1080p video you need a Ethernet cord or wireless N connection that not far away and has little to no users on it. If you try to fast forward and it takes a long time, it is probably because your using wifi. WIFI totally sucks at steaming 1080p. Unless you running wireless AC or a really good N connection with low traffic then your going to have problems with higher rez films.
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Fail is a noun, not a verb. Your is not the same thing as you're. I didn't say anything last time you posted, but if you wish to repeat yourself in this thread, at least make it so I don't want to stab my brain when reading your words. Also, where's the mention of your failure to grasp the point of the rant?

Reasons have already been given that more than justify the use of DLNA with a TV. Just because you refuse to accept them doesn't mean your reasoning stands. Go ahead and buy me an HTPC, or quit telling me to spend unnecessary amounts of money and not helping resolve the situation.
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Not really helpful, or entirely true.
Neither is this thread. All you did was whine and moan about some software glitches. Like that's gonna keep me from buying the best plasma panel on the market. If all you care about are apps, buy an iPad. Leave the TV's to us.
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I guess reading isn't your strong suit.
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What isn't someone's strong suit is listening to advice from many people that TVs (and other hardware players) suck and that a small HTPC is what you need for full compatibility with playing multimedia.
 
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I can attest to Panasonics poor customer support. I had multiple problems years ago with a HDTV and they were anything but helpful. I even spoke to the president of the company (Scott Wolfe I believe) and got 0 satisfaction. OP I feel for you and good luck.
So how did you manage to get ahold of him?
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So how did you manage to get ahold of him?

After moving up the food chain with Sears (where I purchased the set) they provided me the info. You could try and post on http://www.avsforum.com/f/ and someone would probably be able to supply whatever contacts you need. It's been a long time since I dealt with Panasonic so I can't remember any other info. Sorry and good luck smile.gif
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Even when the files are recognized, they do not play properly and the TV gives incorrect property information like length of video. You can also forget fast-forwarding through parts of files, too, as it will just skip you to the end of the files.

Take a gander here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-4_Part_14#Data_streams

Basically, mp4 is little more than a container; so what formats the TV supports has more to do with the encodings it can decode regardless of the container. As the wiki mentions, it's fairly common practice to only support a small subset of the actual formats that the mp4 spec is able to contain.

A few thoughts on the matter:
- Never use a wireless network if you want uninterrupted transmission. Wifi is known to not only have periodic high latency, but if you live in town, the available channels are usually jam-packed and you have a lot of interference.

- Test different encoding formats and container file types to see what the majority of your DLNA devices like. I personally use the .m2ts container with AVCHD file format (h264/mpeg-4). What works, works and what doesn't, doesn't. Usually firmware updates may help the stability of things, but generally will not add support for new container formats or encodings.

- Probably the most user-friendly TV-attached device I have used for video streaming is the Roku; interestingly enough it doesn't support DLNA, but replaces the need for DLNA streaming of common online video sources, such as Hulu+, HBO, Crackle, or Amazon. For DLNA, I currently use a ps3, but as yet have not found an especially satisfactory device. It seems most device manufacturers mostly just worry about the paid subscription content and ignore free sources (such as home encoded movies over DLNA) unless large amounts of their customers yell at them.

- The quality of Panasonic products has actually improved over the last many years, unlike most of the name brands: Sony, Samsung, etc. At one time the only reason to buy Panasonic was because you were too cheap to buy anything worthwhile (or too broke). That has changed some over the years, but I have no personal experience with their customer service: very, very few companies have any kind of useful service: take one guess why most companies that used to offer 10 or 20 year warranties now offer 30 day or 1 year warranties... If only the customer service problem was limited to Panasonic.


Good luck on your Panasonic woes: and try using different encodings just to see if you can find what makes your TV happy.
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Thank you for the suggestions! Unfortunately I have already exhausted all of those ideas. I was aware that MP4 is a wrapper. I actually had to encode several videos myself to make the TV recognize them at all, so I know they are all correct. Changing audio or video codecs results in something not playing at all. Anymore reading file data properly is the biggest flaw. I can live without fast forwarding at high speeds. Firmware is just not doing what it is supposed to once the file is decoded. It happens for music files even when the files are on an SD card in the TV, so firmware is not set up to read data properly.

On a side note, I don't know how you got PS3 DLNA to work. I constantly get errors, network port accessibility requirements are ridiculous, and the listed file compatibilities for the PS3 is pretty lacking to begin with. It also has metadata issues, even when using a server to play the file (e.g. Windows Media Player).
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