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You make it sounds like you have to arrange a new start screen every time you turn on the computer.

At the end of the day, your point that a start menu is required when installing productivity suites is not really true tbh.

Not really true? The polar opposite of true.

I'm a web designer by trade, and I also dabble in Java as well as making my own wordpress/minecraft/tcadmin plugins. I succeed just as well in 8 as I did in 7. Go figure.
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Not really true? The polar opposite of true.

I'm a web designer by trade, and I also dabble in Java as well as making my own wordpress/minecraft/tcadmin plugins. I succeed just as well in 8 as I did in 7. Go figure.

Same, I'm totally fine without that start button, definitely not better without it but I've been adapting.
    
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post #183 of 226
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You make it sounds like you have to arrange a new start screen every time you turn on the computer.

At the end of the day, your point that a start menu is required when installing productivity suites is not really true tbh.

Like I've said, I've installed many productivity suites of my own (including office/CS6/other proprietaries I use for work) and I have not encountered the problems you allude to, including templates or that a start menu was a requirement for pretty much anything.

I'd like to see the "all apps" section of the start screen be foldered, but I don't agree that installing productivity software creates a start menu requirement.

No, I make sound as if you need to arrange a Start Screen every time you install a piece of software...and that is 100% true.

How are you not seeing this? Are you telling me that when you install something...say CS6...only a couple squares appear on your start screen? That was one of the worse ones I think. Are you running something extra? When I install these things every clickable option that normally would be foldered in the Start menu are all turned into icons. Is it an option somewhere that can be turned off? Though the trouble there would be that I still want these icons to be put somewhere...just not everywhere.

It is just an annoyance...not a requirement. I guess I have high standards of organization and I do not like it when icons are thrown around willy nilly. Once it is done being organized, it is done. However, if I even upgrade to a new version or install a new tool set...I get to do some all over again. If I had been doing this since day one it would not have been a big deal, but when they have had this nice organized start menu for so long and then take it away for a total chaotic Start Screen that you have to organize your self...it makes me a little unhappy. Heh, I hardly have any icons on my desktop either. The few I do have I have all moved off to a monitor that I actually have to spin my chair a bit to see. Everything must be clean.

It would be like if Android released an update and my contacts list was no longer arranged by name, but instead showed all the pictures associated with the numbers. It would be a mess that I'd have to sort out and when I added a new number I'd have to sort that new number to where it should go too. How would this help any one? This is pretty much what they've done with the Start Screen...all the icons for software are just lumped together in no real order.
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Yes, I agree. The icon mess of the start menu is quite annoying. It doesn't bother me that much, but it's still there.
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Looks like I will be staying with Windows 7 until Linux becomes a legitimate gaming platform option for me. MS's loss as far as I am concerned.
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All depends on what software you have installed. If I did nothing but Internet browse and game; Windows 8 would be fine...however, once you start installing production software, SQL server...heck, even Office really...you have to have a start menu. Well, you can install one thing and then go make folders for it on the Start Screen and then install the next and do the same, but it is a pain. Plus some of the rarely used tools might get sorted wrong and then you will have trouble finding it unless you know its name, but if I don't use it much then I probably won't remember it off the top of head. I will just go looking for that tool that does what I need and recognize it when I see it.

I think that is the great divide here. Even the Surface in a corporate setting just doesn't work. It would be fine for handing to my child to watch a movie in the car, but when installing software that installs 50 "Start Menu" icons it get ridiculous. Especially if you install multiple apps like that. It has the power to run these apps...the interface just doesn't work well.
We don't *need* the start menu, *you* do.
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We don't *need* the start menu, *you* do.

It's not a matter of needing the start menu, it's a matter of wanting the organizational capabilities of the start menu in the start screen, which it seriously lacks and I hope Microsoft addresses.
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We don't *need* the start menu, *you* do.

It's not a matter of needing the start menu, it's a matter of wanting the organizational capabilities of the start menu in the start screen, which it seriously lacks and I hope Microsoft addresses.
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Taskbar. Desktop.

Not a substitute for the start menu, and the all apps screen is a mess.

One thing I get tired of is dismissing valid complaints and criticisms. Start Screen is not optimal, and needs to be improved. You and Grizzle try to dismiss valid criticisms way too much.
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Still don't understand why people need the old start menu...it's slower. You got to accurately click on the orb instead of clicking anywhere offscreen in the bottom left corner, you got more sub folders to click through to find the application you need and those folders are full of crap like uninstall, readmes and html links.
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