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Ever heard of the rumored "Titan LE Edition".......if anything the cut down version will be that

That's what I meant.

Don't like the term GTX Titan LE because it's not official. But I'm banking on the new GTX Titan LE aka the new cut down GTX Titan to not be released as a Titan card at all but the new GTX 780.

I think it would be a huge mistake for Nvidia to release a GK104 refresh at this point regardless of its performance. Why? Because they've made such a big deal about the GTX Titan, it's architecture, it's performance and it's left a huge impression on the market. That to release the new GTX 780 as a refresh of an older inferior architecture would be a mistake marketing wise. People won't want it. Where as, if they release the new GTX 780 as a cut down version of the GTX Titan, people will tear down shop windows to get one. Because its the same successful super computer architecture and chip as the GTX Titan, just more affordable.

Same reason everyone wants this GTX Titan LE. Nvidia just need to be smart and make it the GTX 780 and then suddenly the world is super pumped up about the new GTX 700 series simply because of its architecture. Because its based off the GTX Titan. Instead of divided and not wanting the GTX 700 series because it's just a weak refresh.

I don't see them releasing the GTX Titan LE and using it to delay the GTX 700 series until maxwell and releasing maxwell at the end of the year. Would crowd their line-up (if they didnt stop producing GTX Titans) and make maxwell look weak since it won't be faster than the GTX Titan.
    
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post #82 of 101
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I'm still trying to figure out how having a GTX 780 running at 800MHz and a "cheaper" GTX 770 running at 925MHz makes ANY sense ... especially since the memory speed, quantity, and type are identical. The x80's have always been faster and more powerful than the x70's. 125MHz isn't exactly chump change in speed either.

Yeah it doesn't make any sense at all.

IIRC we've never had a flagship chip that was clocked slower than the 2nd best card. At least from the ones that contain the same GPU.
 
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post #83 of 101
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Yeah it doesn't make any sense at all.

IIRC we've never had a flagship chip that was clocked slower than the 2nd best card. At least from the ones that contain the same GPU.


Watch, if they do that, they might still sell just as many 780's as 770's due to perceived performance. rolleyes.gif
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post #84 of 101
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I'm still trying to figure out how having a GTX 780 running at 800MHz and a "cheaper" GTX 770 running at 925MHz makes ANY sense ... especially since the memory speed, quantity, and type are identical. The x80's have always been faster and more powerful than the x70's. 125MHz isn't exactly chump change in speed either.

TPU had the Titan specs correct, but not the clocks.

I'd expect these cards to come clocked similar to 6xx cards. The core count, ROP's and TMU's are what matters here in those specs. They make sense for a refresh. Nothing is official anyway, we're all playing a guessing game at this point. wink.gif
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post #85 of 101
I would love it if the 700 series came out this quick, but I doubt it.

Am I the only wanting a cheaper 600 series card and not an actual 700? lol
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Would crowd their line-up (if they didnt stop producing GTX Titans) and make maxwell look weak since it won't be faster than the GTX Titan.

How do you know Maxwell won`t be faster than Titan? That would be really pathetic if true.

It should be 15-25% faster and much more efficient imo.
post #87 of 101
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I would love it if the 700 series came out this quick, but I doubt it.

Am I the only wanting a cheaper 600 series card and not an actual 700? lol

thumb.gif That is awesome and a great plan. The current generation of cards on both sides are still amazing so a new generation is not so much a need as a luxury. The good news however is a new generation will force price drops on the current generation.
post #88 of 101
I say that both companies should stop bothering about releasing the next generation/refresh as of right now. They should wait until the new consoles come out, see what kind of GPU horsepower those ports require to run at a satisfactory level (60FPS @1080p) and release accordingly powerful cards. That gives them more time to better the cards that are currently in development and achieve optimization levels of the consoles, making the cards even more ready for the next gen ports.

Besides, both the companies have sufficiently powerful cards at every performance level and price point, making the release of newer gen cards a moot and unnecessary point especially since there are not many new games in the current market/to be released that wont be handles well enough by the current cards.. The only missing card would be something like Titan in AMD's lineup, but that needn't be too much of a concern after they've fixed issues with crossfire and when 7990 is available at prices similar to that of the Titan's.

About a cut down GK110 : Having gone through various articles and threads, a cut down GK110 seems more logical to be released as a 780 rather than a Titan LE, especially since nvidia said that the Titan would not be incorporated within any series and should not be compared with any series-incorporated cards either. So the release of another Titan card kind of makes Titan its own series and goes against the original point stated by nvidia. Although the release of Titan LE to bridge the price and performance gap between the 680 and the Titan would make it absolutely unnecessary to release a new lineup called the 700 series, which actually seems more reasonable an easier to carry out.

If it actually turns out to be Titan LE released in Q3 with the speculated performance of ~80% of a Titan and the price is anywhere near $800, it wont be worth the wait imo, especially if 2014 brings a refresh of Kepler or the newer generation of cards. Because, in all honesty, I wouldnt want to see $500 cards performing within a 90% radius of an $800 card I just bought ~3 months ago.

Just my opinion though.
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That's what I meant.

Don't like the term GTX Titan LE because it's not official. But I'm banking on the new GTX Titan LE aka the new cut down GTX Titan to not be released as a Titan card at all but the new GTX 780.

I think it would be a huge mistake for Nvidia to release a GK104 refresh at this point regardless of its performance. Why? Because they've made such a big deal about the GTX Titan, it's architecture, it's performance and it's left a huge impression on the market. That to release the new GTX 780 as a refresh of an older inferior architecture would be a mistake marketing wise. People won't want it. Where as, if they release the new GTX 780 as a cut down version of the GTX Titan, people will tear down shop windows to get one. Because its the same successful super computer architecture and chip as the GTX Titan, just more affordable.

Same reason everyone wants this GTX Titan LE. Nvidia just need to be smart and make it the GTX 780 and then suddenly the world is super pumped up about the new GTX 700 series simply because of its architecture. Because its based off the GTX Titan. Instead of divided and not wanting the GTX 700 series because it's just a weak refresh.

I don't see them releasing the GTX Titan LE and using it to delay the GTX 700 series until maxwell and releasing maxwell at the end of the year. Would crowd their line-up (if they didnt stop producing GTX Titans) and make maxwell look weak since it won't be faster than the GTX Titan.

Ohh yes i concur on that part......i actually would prefer it to be the GTX 780, anyhow i dont know how they will manage to squeeze the 7xx series in if thats not the case. Talk about canabalising sales tongue.gif
    
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Newegg Yolked actually reported on this story from Fudzilla. If you actually read the article, it never mentions any specifics, just something "new and exciting". It could be a game bundle, it could be price drops, it could even be the Titan LE, but I highly doubt it is a whole new 700 Series. They just added the 650 Ti boost like a month ago.
     
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