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Okay, so how badly will my CPU bottleneck the 7870 XT? Will it bottleneck it badly enough that I won't notice a performance gain from my HD 6770, or...?

You still notice an improvement from your upgrade, but not much due to the limitation of your CPU.
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My motherboard is an MSI 970A-G46 AM3/AM3+ motherboard. My CPU cooler is an Arctic Cooling Freezer XTREME Rev.2 CPU cooler. My X4 965 at idle sits at 28-30 degrees celsius, and when gaming it sits at between 35-50 degrees celsius.
   
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Okay, so how badly will my CPU bottleneck the 7870 XT? Will it bottleneck it badly enough that I won't notice a performance gain from my HD 6770, or...?

No you will still realize a massive performance gain.
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post #14 of 51
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You still notice an improvement from your upgrade, but not much due to the limitation of your CPU.

So, what you're saying is that it wouldn't be worth the $290 upgrade to upgrade JUST my graphics card?
   
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post #15 of 51
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I would also sell my current graphics card, which I know for a fact I could get at least $40 for, so... $290 - $40 (Tomb Raider) - $40 (HD 6770) = $210 for the HD 7870 XT + BioShock Infinite + FarCry 3: Blood Dragon.
   
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post #16 of 51
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So, what you're saying is that it wouldn't be worth the $290 upgrade to upgrade JUST my graphics card?

IMO, yes...upgrade your CPU first before GPU. For me, I will upgrade my CPU first and next graphics card (in the future). That would be pointless for me to upgrade my GPU, If I can't get the FULL Potential/Performance from It. Especially when buy a high end card.

Or If you want to upgrade your GPU first, OC your CPU to "handle" your GPU more carefully.
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post #17 of 51
Not a bad deal with the price offsets but you will DEFINITELY see bottlenecking. Basically will see a bottleneck somewhere no matter what. If you go with the GPU your CPU won't be able to feed it enough in games. if you go with the CPU, you will see the same thing just in opposite direction. You will have to choose because you don't want to OC.
post #18 of 51
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It's funny too, because I had the opportunity to buy an FX-8320 for $110, but the seller stopped replying to my messages... frown.gif

Which upgrade will give me the least amount of bottleneck and the most performance:

Upgrade CPU and not GPU for $225

OR

Upgrade GPU and not CPU + get two free games for $290 ($210 after selling games and old GPU)
   
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post #19 of 51
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Will I actually notice THAT MUCH of a performance gain and much less of a bottleneck if I overclock my CPU to say... 4GHz? I just don't see how a graphics card can be bottlenecked so much at 3.4GHz and bottlenecked much less with the same CPU at 4GHz... tongue.gif
   
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post #20 of 51
I can't believe the failed logic thats present in this thread. No matter what he has to upgrade the GPU. Why are people still recommending he avoid upgrading the GPU first? He very well may be able to only upgrade the GPU and obtain good performance for his use.
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