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Originally Posted by Fiked View Post

That gun bill I believe would have required background checks for private sale by individuals. Gun stores are already required to do checks I believe.

Yup, I mispoke. The intent of the original bill was to "close the gun show loophole", meaning require sales between non-FFL firearm owners to transfer through an FFL. It was also to require background checks on online purchases, but those are already done since the law requires you ship non C&R firearms to an FFL, not an individual. The second bill allowed transfers between family and friends to be done without going through an FFL, which effectively brings the law back to square 1 again.

In any case, I'd like to see the meat of this bill. See if it's changed any since v1.0...
    
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How odd that CNN.com doesn't have anything about this on their homepage. Just a note that I don't care to go further. Corporate media ftw!

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No real surprise there.
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Can someone explain how CISPA affects the home user?

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Can someone explain how CISPA affects the home user?

Google is your friend -ish.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57580268-38/cispa-permits-police-to-do-warrantless-database-searches/
post #26 of 31
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Originally Posted by Deadboy90 View Post

Oh so they want to restrict the freedom of information but not expand background checks for people buying guns? Logic fail.

I'm sure you're a fan of the Patriot Act as well. What part of the 2nd ammendment do you not understand?

I bet you think criminals will all go get background checks for guns too! /sarcasm
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Originally Posted by Wattser93 View Post

Purchases from a dealer (FFL) require a background check (even at gun shows). The background check bill wouldn't have done anything aside from keep honest people honest.

CISPA is just one of many more bills to come that aim to take away the liberties our ancestors worked so hard to earn. It's truly saddening.

Wrong. Private transfers from even family members (gifts, estate hand downs) would require the government to get involved and CHARGE YOU FOR IT.

You enjoy being taxed? Come move to Massachusetts or CT.
    
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CISPA passed huh? Bad news...
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Completely unrelated, as background checks are already done on the purchases they describe. That bill literally adds nothing. This bill (CISPA) is another restriction.

Why aren't we seeing the outcry over it this time that we saw originally? Short memories?

The Boston Marathon. Look at the 3 major votes that happened while the public was looking elsewhere.

This whole thing is dangerously close to politics on OCN, probably should just cool it on the topic.

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Sweeteners for the corporations this time. On your own buddy.

Yep, that too.
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I'm sure you're a fan of the Patriot Act as well. What part of the 2nd ammendment do you not understand?

I bet you think criminals will all go get background checks for guns too! /sarcasm
Wrong. Private transfers from even family members (gifts, estate hand downs) would require the government to get involved and CHARGE YOU FOR IT.

You enjoy being taxed? Come move to Massachusetts or CT.
False. Completely False. Private transactions between family members were specifically exempted, see below for exact wording. Spoilered for length and terrible copy past formatting.
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Paragraph (1) shall not apply to—
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‘‘(A) bona fide gifts between spouses, between
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parents and their children, between siblings, or be-
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tween grandparents and their grandchildren;
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‘‘(B) a transfer made from a decedent’s estate,
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pursuant to a legal will or the operation of law;
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‘‘(C) a temporary transfer of possession that
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occurs between an unlicensed transferor and an unli-
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censed transferee, if—
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‘‘(i) the temporary transfer of possession
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occurs in the home or curtilage of the unli-
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censed transferor;
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‘‘(ii) the firearm is not removed from that
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home or curtilage during the temporary trans-
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fer; and
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‘‘(iii) the transfer has a duration of less
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than 7 days; and
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‘‘(D) a temporary transfer of possession with-
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out transfer of title made in connection with lawful
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hunting or sporting purposes if the transfer oc-
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curs—
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‘‘(i) at a shooting range located in or on
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premises owned or occupied by a duly incor-
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porated organization organized for conservation
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purposes or to foster proficiency in firearms
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and the firearm is, at all times, kept within the
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premises of the shooting range;
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‘‘(ii) at a target firearm shooting competi-
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tion under the auspices of or approved by a
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State agency or nonprofit organization and the
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firearm is, at all times, kept within the prem-
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ises of the shooting competition; or
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‘‘(iii) while hunting or trapping, if—
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‘‘(I) the activity is legal in all places
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where the unlicensed transferee possesses
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the firearm;
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‘‘(II) the temporary transfer of pos-
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session occurs during the designated hunt-
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ing season; and
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‘‘(III) the unlicensed transferee holds
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any required license or permit.

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There needs to be a Mass Effect moment where one man has the ability to sacrifice the government in real life. -_-
Our government needs to be just swept clean and started over again. (Especially the judicial system)
     
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