Originally Posted by aroc91
That means absolutely nothing. When I took biochemistry, basic biological concepts like solute transport mechanisms like symport and antiport had to be covered because the chem majors didn't have the slightest idea how it worked while the bio majors had learned all that stuff two years earlier.
Just because it can be described in terms of chemistry doesn't mean chemists necessarily know it.
Your anecdotal experience means absolutely nothing in the context of scientific organization. There is good reason why the nature of the scientific disciplines is not defined by the knowledge (or lack thereof) of undergrads.
Biological life processes can be reduced to chemical mechanisms defined by entropy and thermodynamics. Life's catabolic processes are driven by the oxidation-reduction reactions of organic (or inorganic) molecules. This is indisputable and fundamentally true. Even active transport, your own example, is defined by these parameters. However, if you are expounding on the nature of these mechanisms and their functions in a macroscopic organism, then we have moved into the purview of Biology. There is certainly blurring of the lines as we reduce the size and complexity of the system with which we are interested (Biochemistry). The degree of complexity in the systems Biologists find of interest are typically much greater and more unpredictable than chemical systems, which typically have well defined parameters. This is why Biology can be thought of as a more highly organized science with respect to Chemistry.
My point has nothing to do with the ability of Biologists to understand the chemistry behind life sciences or vice versa. This is how you seemed to interpret it.
Originally Posted by -Apocalypse-
And the entire field of computer science is based on the electricity being either on or off. Doesn't mean electrical engineers understand how to make a computer say Hello World.
This is equivalent to saying that biology (or anything) requires life to exist. This extreme reduction of the argument can be made of literally any subject on Earth. It is of little value as a result.Edited by Solarin - 4/22/13 at 7:22pm