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No, it's not what I said. I was refuting the idea that Radeons are always better.

You can't magically flash Firepro BIOS onto Radeons and even if you did, the Firepro performance numbers aren't that impressive when the performance is crippled by the way the application has been coded.

AUTOCAD consistently performs better on NVIDIA, see the tomshardware article for GTX TITAN I posted: those are all gaming cards.

Your best bet is to get a Geforce GTX 680 or GTX 670 (save money for >90% of performance)... the GTX 660 Ti memory bus (192bit) isn't bottlenecked in this bench but it may be if your client has larger datasets. If you want to save more than that, worst case scenario is GTX 660. There's a larger drop from GTX 660 to GTX 650, mainly due to memory bus halving to 128-bit.

Quadros normally provide extra features in professional applications, better support, and have more VRAM (sometimes ECC), which is why people buy them. This generation the Quadros are rebranded Geforces more or less (K5000=GTX 680 4GB but ECC VRAM, K4000=GTX 650 TI Boost 3GB K2000 = GTX 650 2GB). Autodesk AUTOCAD has no extra features on Quadros, it's a waste of money.
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Here’s another popular 3D modeling suite that uses DirectX. As with 3ds Max, Nvidia offers special support for AutoCAD developers but, unfortunately, the corresponding mini-driver for the Quadro series hasn’t been updated for a long time. Its latest version is only compatible with AutoCAD 2011. That’s why users of this software suite cannot fully benefit from the advantages offered by Nvidia’s latest professional cards. It means that there is no fundamental difference between the Quadro and GeForce series products based on the Kepler architecture.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphics/display/nvidia-quadro-k5000_6.html#sect0

Autodesk has moved away from OpenGL to DirectX (see Autodesk Inventor's performance on AMD cards vs NVIDIA cards) so this may not hold true in future versions of Autodesk AUTOCAD (current version uses DirectX but for some reason the performance of AUTOCAD and Inventor are wildly different). But you don't buy for the future possibility. tongue.gif
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Civil Engineers work in 2D environments, you really don't need much in terms of graphical horsepower. A high CPU clock speed is really what is going to give you the best performance. Don't skimp on the RAM, 16GB would be what I recommend as you are always going to have a lot of stuff going on.
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Civil Engineers work in 2D environments, you really don't need much in terms of graphical horsepower. A high CPU clock speed is really what is going to give you the best performance. Don't skimp on the RAM, 16GB would be what I recommend as you are always going to have a lot of stuff going on.
Is it fair to say 32GB is over-overkill?
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Is it fair to say 32GB is over-overkill?

Yea I would say that is definitely overkill. Put that money in to a 64GB SSD scratch drive.
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Sorry, for bumping this thread.
But could someone recommend a good system for civil engineering?

Budget (2700 to 4000)$

General choices are.
workstation or desktop build?

AutoDesk AutoCAD 2013 GPU Acceleration
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