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Ok biggrin.gif

Be Gentle smile.gif I started this build one month ago, my first attempt at water cooling.

I wanted to try water-cooling for years but never had the nerve, time, or money to really have a stab.

Anyway Phase 1 was getting the case prepared and CPU water-cooled, and Phase 2 was to include a GPU. which is now done.

The Gear

TJ08-E
Asus ROG IV Gene-Z
i5 2500k OC to 4.8ghz
Zotax GTX 570
Corsair 1600Mhz 8GB RAM
Silent Wings PSU (650w)

Phase 1

Swiftech MCP 35X Pump and Rad
Phoyba 200mm Rad
Phobya 180mm Fan
Koolance 380i CPU Block
Silver Kill Coil
Feser Distilled Water
Swiftech compression fittings
PrimoChill Tubing 3/8” 5/8 – was really really hard to fit the Swiftech fittings


Phase 2

ASUS GTX 670 DirectCU
Phoyba 120mm Rad
Phobya 120mm Fan
EK 670 GPU WaterBlock
Koolance Quick Release Connector on CPU Block just for the hell of it.
Swiftech compression fittings
PrimoChill Tubing 3/8” 5/8 – was really really hard to fit the Swiftech fittings

The goal was to keep fan noise to a minimum at load, having lower temps would be a bonus but Ii wanted the PC to not be heard above day to day background noise.

oh the other goal was to have fun building it.

Phase 1

I reorganised the TJ08-E. Its a compact case so fitting the 200m radiator required the removal of the the drive cage. I purchased a 5" 1/4" drive bay to host my SSD and HD.

I rotated the PSU so the fan was blowing up and out of my case , instead of down and in.

Mistakes

Putting the compressions fittings(HARD WORK) on both ends of a tubing run, attaching one end to a component, then realising it was impossible to connect to the other component because i was twisting against the end i had just fitted . EPIC FAIL LOL

With regards to the tubing it was very hard to fit the tubing onto the Swiftech barbs, and almost impossible to screw the "nut" down to secure the tubing. I checked numerous times I hadn't got my sizing wrong - the sizing matched on paper. I found that immersing the tubing end in very hot water for 10-15 seconds softened it just enough to help, but my hands got super sore. While i'm not muscle bound, i not a 55k weakling either. In confines of this case it was not easy , and thankfully (luckly) i had purchased a few rotatable compression fittings which made attaching the tubing easier.

The alternative tubing I had fitted the Swiftech compression fittings better, but didn't like the look or feel of it.

No major water spills , was scary filling the loop as the Swiftech MCP 35X really really moves water fast and it was close to emptying , apparently the pumps break if run without water.

The loop was

PUMP OUT > RAD IN@TOP
RAD OUT@BOTTOM > CPU BLOCK IN
CPU BLOCK OUT > PUMP IN @TOP

Intel Burn Test I was hitting around 62C at 4.8GHz

IMG_20130212_001656.jpg 470k .jpg file IMG_20130212_002141.jpg 402k .jpg file

Phase 2

Reworked the tubing, added a 2nd Radiator.

Major issue , I broke a swifttech rotary fitting and water leaked out fast - switched of PSU quickly with no major damage.

Was really awkward getting it all into that case smile.gif

Intel Burn hitting around the same 62/63C.

The 670 is running at 50C on extreme in Heaven 4.0 ( WOW , that is down from 75C with the fans at full pelt on the card )

I need to tidy up my cables.

The tube coming from the pump outlet to the 200mm rad is to long and is just sitting in an awkward place frown.gif I really want to fit a small fan under the pump but i don't think i have the room for it.

Any comments from the experts would be more than welcome smile.gif

Is the layout OK ?

Are the mix of components OK ( silver coil, rads ,nickel acetyl blocks )


Edited by ferrari312 - 4/19/13 at 8:57am
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Very nice!
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Originally Posted by ferrari312 View Post

Ok biggrin.gif

Be Gentle smile.gif I started this build one month ago, my first attempt at water cooling.

I wanted to try water-cooling for years but never had the nerve, time, or money to really have a stab.

Anyway Phase 1 was getting the case prepared and CPU water-cooled, and Phase 2 was to include a GPU. which is now done.

The Gear

TJ08-E
Asus ROG IV Gene-Z
i5 2500k OC to 4.8ghz
Zotax GTX 570
Corsair 1600Mhz 8GB RAM
Silent Wings PSU (650w)

Phase 1

Swiftech MCP 35X Pump and Rad
Phoyba 200mm Rad
Phobya 180mm Fan
Koolance 380i CPU Block
Silver Kill Coil
Feser Distilled Water
Swiftech compression fittings
PrimoChill Tubing 3/8” 5/8 – was really really hard to fit the Swiftech fittings


Phase 2

ASUS GTX 670 DirectCU
Phoyba 120mm Rad
Phobya 120mm Fan
EVGA 670 GPU WaterBlock
Koolance Quick Release Connector on CPU Block just for the hell of it.
Swiftech compression fittings
PrimoChill Tubing 3/8” 5/8 – was really really hard to fit the Swiftech fittings

The goal was to keep fan noise to a minimum at load, having lower temps would be a bonus but Ii wanted the PC to not be heard above day to day background noise.

oh the other goal was to have fun building it.

Phase 1

I reorganised the TJ08-E. Its a compact case so fitting the 200m radiator required the removal of the the drive cage. I purchased a 5" 1/4" drive bay to host my SSD and HD.

I rotated the PSU so the fan was blowing up and out of my case , instead of down and in.

Mistakes

Putting the compressions fittings(HARD WORK) on both ends of a tubing run, attaching one end to a component, then realising it was impossible to connect to the other component because i was twisting against the end i had just fitted . EPIC FAIL LOL

With regards to the tubing it was very hard to fit the tubing onto the Swiftech barbs, and almost impossible to screw the "nut" down to secure the tubing. I checked numerous times I hadn't got my sizing wrong - the sizing matched on paper. I found that immersing the tubing end in very hot water for 10-15 seconds softened it just enough to help, but my hands got super sore. While i'm not muscle bound, i not a 55k weakling either. In confines of this case it was not easy , and thankfully (luckly) i had purchased a few rotatable compression fittings which made attaching the tubing easier.

The alternative tubing I had fitted the Swiftech compression fittings better, but didn't like the look or feel of it.

No major water spills , was scary filling the loop as the Swiftech MCP 35X really really moves water fast and it was close to emptying , apparently the pumps break if run without water.

The loop was

PUMP OUT > RAD IN@TOP
RAD OUT@BOTTOM > CPU BLOCK IN
CPU BLOCK OUT > PUMP IN @TOP

Intel Burn Test I was hitting around 62C at 4.8GHz

IMG_20130212_001656.jpg 470k .jpg file IMG_20130212_002141.jpg 402k .jpg file

Phase 2

...


O.o You don't seem to have a reservoir in that loop. That's odd.
You should get something like this
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2184/ex-res-104/XSPC_525_Bay_Reservoir_-_Clear_Silver_Black.html?tl=g30c97s168#blank
It will make maintenance (which you will have) a lot easier.
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Looks pretty good, but the photos are terrible. Great comp, bad camera wink.gif
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post #5 of 8
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Hopefully the phase2 pictures are better , the camera on my HTC One X didnt like the LED strip ... the strip isnt staying it just in there to help examine stuff during the build process and also look for water spots eek smile.gif
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... The camera is bad but surely you can see the reservoir in the loop ZytheEKS ? maybe its not the camera ? LOL biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by ZytheEKS View Post

O.o You don't seem to have a reservoir in that loop. That's odd.
You should get something like this
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2184/ex-res-104/XSPC_525_Bay_Reservoir_-_Clear_Silver_Black.html?tl=g30c97s168#blank
It will make maintenance (which you will have) a lot easier.

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Originally Posted by ferrari312 View Post

... The camera is bad but surely you can see the reservoir in the loop ZytheEKS ? maybe its not the camera ? LOL biggrin.gif

Yea there definitely is a res in there @ZytheEKS....anyway to straighten the res out though @ferrari312? Good looking build, crooked res throws if off though IMO.
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Thread Starter 
Yeah the squint Res is very annoying. I have a fan under the pump which is helping keep temps down and hopefully improve longevity of the pump as it gets hot, but the solution is to shorten the tube run from pump outlet to rad , or increase the length and push it to the back towards MB (maybe) .... but that means mucking about with the bloody swiftech compression fittings again and i just want to use the PC ... next change .... i think the swiftech rotary fitting would help but they are not cheap
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