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OK. Other components are fine. How is the thermaltake water 2.0?

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You know what can't fail? Noctua NH-D14 and it has comparable if not better cooling capabilities then the h100.
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The problem with that is your mobo might break if you try to move it what that big ole thing hanging off the side of it smile.gif
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I have used quite of a few of the Corsair H products for building rigs for customers and anything that I won't be using myself. I have never seen this and if you just read word for word what you claim to have caused this it is hard to believe it a defect in the product itself.

Just disconnecting it and reconnecting it is no different than unplugging the computer from the wall except you are tugging on the cables a bit and pushing the pins in the connector around a little bit. So if the problem really is because of this then I would think it was physical if it was actually Corsair's fault. As in they used junk fan connectors or pins or bad solder connections where the wires go to.

Not that it normally matters but did you connect the power with the PC off?

Not saying it has nothing to do with Corsair but I wouldn't think defective PSU before I thought it was actually (2) Corsair H100 units failing.

As for the h100i... it is a very good product and I would expect it to last longer than the H100. I have not heard of any issues with the fan controller built in but the fan controller that is built in means a longer lasting pump (runs the pump at a lower RPM until under load) and lower noise levels from the automated fan control and that the fans run off water temp and not CPU temp as the water heats up slower than the CPU and then takes longer to cool down. So you have a more accurate way of cooling the radiator.

I would def RMA them.

Also if that case will fit it I would run the larger unit based off of 140MM fans.
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The problem with that is your mobo might break if you try to move it what that big ole thing hanging off the side of it smile.gif

I've literally never heard of that happening, from what i know the backplate is designed pretty well to prevent such a thing from happening.
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Were you using the same PSU both times the H100 fried on you? And if so, did you use the same molex connections? And I know this might sound like a stupid question, and excuse me for it, but you are a 100% certain that all H100 connectors were connected firmly and properly and to the right connection points?

Because I use a H100 myself and have personally installed in a large number of them on PC's I've built for customers and only once has an H100 failed (and that too after about a year of use, the pump stopped working). Generally the quality control on Corsair products is top notch. If you're planning on switching though, I've heard good things about the NZXT Krakken series.
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Couple ideas... about why its failed twice now... but pretty speculative...

1) Maybe your mobo fan header sometimes overvolts the thing, and the extra current is too much for the microcontroller so it pops. a dumb device wouldn't care so much about a little more juice (it'd just spin a little faster while overvolted).

2) Did you replace the fans that came with the h100 with different more powerful and power consuming fans? If so, plausible that the extra current they'd suck up could exceed what the circuitry in the h100 can deal with.

3) You say it happens after moving or reconfig'ing things, on first power up after that. Maybe the psu and mobo are not fully grounded to one another (or the outside world) until that first power up, and there's a spike in the 12v line large enough to damage the circuity. And since typically, a dumb device would be on that particular header, the mobo doesn't go out of its way to regulate that signal.

This has happened on 2 different motherboards. It's just getting expensive replacing them. I don't have time to wait weeks for an rma every time I disconnect it, unfortunately. I will rma this one, but I'm not risking that feeling of panic as I get that ozone smell again.

The molex connector on them is horrid, too. There just doesn't seem to be a lot of quality control on them. Is the h100i better in this regard?

It doesn't happen on the intial installation. If I disconnect everything and reconnect it, it happens. The first time, it was never disconnected from the power supply. I just swapped the motherboard. The only thing that was disconnected was the fan header and water block.

This time, I replaced everything. It's really hard to make a mistake hooking it up. Just plug in the molex and fan header.
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I've literally never heard of that happening, from what i know the backplate is designed pretty well to prevent such a thing from happening.

I hadn't either, but they mentioned that in this article...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/h100i-elc240-seidon-240m-lq320,3380-14.html
... about AIO liquid coolers of all things. They also mentioned that your recommended air cooler kicks butts.
The title they put on it, "Can Air Cooling Win A Round-Up Of Liquid Coolers?" smile.gif

Kind of makes sense that shipping one cross country in the back of a truck, an AIO will be better off for that.
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I'm really not familiar with those coolers, just what I've read here and in articles, no real practical experience with them (i didn't know that took power from a molex connector for example). Sounds like other folks that do have real experience with them, think highly of them.

> ozone smell

Sounds like some microelectronic components in there got toasted. May never be able to determine exactly why that happened. Faulty components, squirrely psu behavior, who knows. I do know that the extra electronic components integrated into the pump assembly make me wary... but that's just me. To me, simpler systems can be made more reliable. I think thats a fair point to make in a thread about a cooler that has failed twice prior to being near the end of its service life.
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did you check the cables? i remember my h100 connector pins were super loose and werent getting a solid connection.
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I'm going to try the h100i. The change from molex to sata for power might solve the problem. The molex on the h100 is super fragile, and I think that connector has been my problem. The pins on that connector look like they're coming apart on both units. Probably caused a short burning up the pumps. I tried them both on multiple power supplies last night and I noticed how hard they were to plug in on every psu.
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