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actualy both boards are top tier for each company amd / Intel so how is that not comparative also the amd one will also socket the next gen ( steamroller )top tier amd cpu unlike the intel one and yes in a lot of case the amd fx 8350 will perform nearly same or better than a Intel quad with HT in a lot of cases then bring in the overclocking and same happens for less than 1/2 the price. I am sorry I see it crazy to pay 2 times the money to only get a 4-10 fps increase at best in most cases.


I will put it like this the 8350 will perform perfectly fine for gaming and will easily keep you in the good fps range on almost any game if not then overclock it and I quarantee it will for 1/2 the price and you still have room to upgrade to next gen cpu the steamroller I play all my games maxxed out with ease on 3x hd 7970 gpu's with nearly no bottlenecking at all at 4.8ghz x8 my main rig I only use for gaming (the one in my sig ) and nothing else and trust me it flies at any game I set it at I have yet to find a game unplayable or under playable framrate so if you want to pay the premium for an overpriced Intel have at it and waste the extra cash that you could invest into ssd / another graphics card and so on.

I also want to point out from here forward games will be oriented more towards the new AMD architecture due to AMD winning the contracts on nearly all the consoles and they will be running the jaquar core cpu a 8core AMD ( similar to AMD fx cpu's but downclocked) this meens games will be more geared towards AMD also these are also powered by AMD graphics lol in the area of a AMD ati radeon HD 7000 series GPU / APU this is for xbox720 / ps4 and likely steam piston and many more so next gen games will be designed around AMD architecture along with be dx11 standard not a dx9 console ported over to dx11 like it has been in past.

I see the above information giving AMD a huge leap forward in advancement (by meens of added funds for R&D ) also from a programing standpoint an edge in games being better coded for AMD is a huge benefit to AMD CPU's/GPU's/APU's period and removes a lot of biased compilers now in a lot of the games out leaning towards Intel.

I want to point out almost all games are first designed around console then ported over to pc as of lately and in past this will no longer hamper the outcome once the newwer games are being made on the new consoles the pc will see a huge leap forward in the graphics field along with a lot better games period (aka less buggy ) and games will no longer be designed around a console version of 30fps dx9 then bumped up to dx11 at 60+ fps what this meens is a lot for us the gamers and it is a huge leap forward for AMD in many ways.
Woah woah...chill man. No need to explain every detail.

You're comparing a high-end platform with a mainstream platform. It's an apples-to-orange comparison. The Z77 platform is a better comparison. On Newegg, the most recent model of the Sabertooth for the 990FX costs $200. The Intel counterpart costs $240 IIRC. That's hardly 2x more. The i5 3570K and the FX 8320 are about $40. That's an $80 total difference. No one is arguing that the FX CPUs are significantly weaker than i5s and i7s.
Edited by AbdullahG - 4/21/13 at 11:25am
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No one is arguing that the FX CPUs are significantly weaker than i5s and i7s.

Only in ridiculously single threaded software. Once more threads come to play, the scales start to balance, and when more than 4 threads are used, the AMD reigns supreme above an i5 (its price competitor)
   
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Only in ridiculously single threaded software. Once more threads come to play, the scales start to balance, and when more than 4 threads are used, the AMD reigns supreme above an i5 (its price competitor)
I'm aware that multi-thread games and programs like more cores, so yeah.
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So what motherboard for the option to upgrade to steamroller


I'm a huge Asus fan and think the Sabertooth is the best AMD board on the market. Bullet proof build quality and the best UEFI BIOS you can get. The Crosshair V is equally superb but costs $35-50 more and while it has more nifty features, it's build quality and overclocking potential is the same as the Sabertooth. Money no object, Crosshair V. Looking for value, Sabertooth.
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actualy there has been a whole lot of issues with crosshair v's build quality many were returned doa or failed shortly after assembly due to bad heatsink contact with chips on VRM / SB / NB look into it the failure rate is nearly 5 times as high as the asus sabertooth 990fx boards because the sabertooth is TUF series and military grade the testing procedures are nearly 3 times as intensive meaning the failure rates will be far lower period and the build quality period will be far better than the crosshair v due to military spec testing and requirements.


Trust me I was a owner of the crosshair v motherboard 3 RMA's (2 doa 3rd failed 1 1/2 week after assembly ) ( I also want to say it was not a lack of bios support issue was pure faulty boards all boards had newwest bios ) later I decided to go with the sabertooth 990fx and I couldn't be any happier with my choice I love my saberttoth 990fx r2.0 and it overclocks like a mad man only issue add a fan blowwing on the VRM / NB to keep temps there in check if overclocking.

infact I still have a new asus crosshair v motherboard new in box behind me I refused to even open and have debated on selling it because I am just tired of the headache I have gotten from the crosshair v motherboards I got stuck with the motherboard after all this they refused to just refund my money so I got a 4th CHV as the replacement for the 3rd RMA.
Edited by rickcooperjr - 4/21/13 at 3:26pm
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Hadnt heard of any problem with Crosshair V's having a high failure rate. Oh well, Im good with just saying the Sabertooth rules. Its always been my favorite. thumb.gif
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The Asus crosshair formuls v-z is a fantastic board.
But I,m all about Asus any way, but I dout there is better, maybe match at the most.

Plus I have the Crosshair v too, never had any issues with either.
    
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An FX-8320 / 8350 would be a sidegrade. If you want to go AMD wait until Steamroller arrives. If you want an Intel setup wait 1 1/2 months and get Haswell. I would opt for the latter thumb.gif
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fiar enough amd is slightly cheaper. but if you want the best go intel. AMD struggles to beat sandybridge. last gen chips with their current chips. so its upgrade path or great performance. you choose
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I'd suggest you wait a bit longer till haswell,Ivy-E and Steamroller are all out. Btw I would never consider an i5, even a haswell one coming from an i7 with its 8 threads. Go i7-4770k or the new ivy hexa or the steamroller octocore.
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