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Because I think nvidia are further on then AMD I mean look at the titan with its single gpu and 6gb of vram. The 700 series can only improveon this can't they? AMD are to busy putting the majority of there resourcesinto the new PlayStation4 me thinks

700 sereis and titan dont have any connection between them.700 series will not be faster than titan or close to a titan.
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Because I think nvidia are further on then AMD I mean look at the titan with its single gpu and 6gb of vram. The 700 series can only improveon this can't they? AMD are to busy putting the majority of there resourcesinto the new PlayStation4 me thinks

Titan is a super high end workstation/supercomputer-designed GPU that has had low yields and nVIDIA decided to put on a desktop GPU to minimize losses. If you think it was designed 'to beat AMD in gaming' from starters, you couldn't be more wrong.

These things retail at 3750 dollars in their 'as meant to be' version.
   
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So a dual gpu card, that is essentially crossfire on one pcb, beats a single card.

Well it better had.

Although there's little appeal about crossfire/sli or any multi-core setup, in my experience with all the driver/game bugs over the years.

Still, it's nice that AMD are putting out good competition on the GPU front. They need it, the market needs it, and we need it. Even if this is an unfair comparison.

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Titan is a super high end workstation/supercomputer-designed GPU that has had low yields and nVIDIA decided to put on a desktop GPU to minimize losses. If you think it was designed 'to beat AMD in gaming' from starters, you couldn't be more wrong.

These things retail at 3750 dollars in their 'as meant to be' version.


Sounds about right.
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It's not about which is faster. Fast and sloppy doesn't mean a damn thing.
It's about the user experience. So what it's slower in benchmarks, Nv frame rate are much smoother.

FPS numbers doesn't mean jack if your gpu performance spikes and has high levels of input lag.
Keep buying cards based on FPS in artificial benchmarks, AMD appreciates your business.

Yup. I've complained about stutter for a number of years now. Bethesda titles like Oblivion and Fallout 3 suffered from it pretty bad, and it directly contributed to input delay as well, making the experience pretty frustrating.
Edited by Thingamajig - 4/21/13 at 5:38am
post #124 of 243
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Titan is a super high end workstation/supercomputer-designed GPU that has had low yields and nVIDIA decided to put on a desktop GPU to minimize losses. If you think it was designed 'to beat AMD in gaming' from starters, you couldn't be more wrong.
I beg to differ sir: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-titan-opencl-cuda-workstation,3474-23.html - Fast, But Not A Workstation Card.

NVIDIA designed the GeForce GTX TITAN to show what their Kepler architecture is capable of.
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One thing I am worried about with the 7990 is the game support. I hope the thing doesn't have a similar review as the ARES II did at TPU.

Take the average graph with all their games on it:

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

And compare it to the graph where they removed the games where the ares II didn't scale well:

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Titan is a super high end workstation/supercomputer-designed GPU that has had low yields and nVIDIA decided to put on a desktop GPU to minimize losses. If you think it was designed 'to beat AMD in gaming' from starters, you couldn't be more wrong.

These things retail at 3750 dollars in their 'as meant to be' version.

They've been doing this since G80. All of their Big chips have been designed with GPGPU as the priority. Only thing different with GK110 was that it was released first as a tesla, it had enormous amounts of pre-orders from different supercomputers and that it's further away from AMD's offerings than GF100/110 and GT200/GT200b were.
 
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I beg to differ sir: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-titan-opencl-cuda-workstation,3474-23.html - Fast, But Not A Workstation Card.

NVIDIA designed the GeForce GTX TITAN to show what their Kepler architecture is capable of.

What? The amount of misinformation of this thread blows.

gk110 is a workstation chip. A compute monster. Titan had broken opencl with the first drivers.

They didint design titan. Titan is all the chips that didint pass the tdp test for tesla. Please no more misinformations

@alatar. I havent seen a good review from TPU like centuries

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_ares_ii_2_review,1.html

The 3dguru is way better
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I beg to differ sir: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-titan-opencl-cuda-workstation,3474-23.html - Fast, But Not A Workstation Card.

NVIDIA designed the GeForce GTX TITAN to show what their Kepler architecture is capable of.

It actually is a Tesla with disabled parts...laser cut cause they probably were faulty to begin with.
Explain dual precision capability in a gaming card otherwise?
It's common practice to reutilize faulty high end parts for lower end products and rebadge them...

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6774/nvidias-geforce-gtx-titan-part-2-titans-performance-unveiled/3
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What? The amount of misinformation of this thread blows.

gk110 is a workstation chip. A compute monster. Titan had broken opencl with the first drivers.

They didint design titan. Titan is all the chips that didint pass the tdp test for tesla. Please no more misinformations

@alatar. I havent seen a good review from TPU like centuries

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_ares_ii_2_review,1.html

The 3dguru is way better
Either way the the titan is flying off the shelves and sellingout across the web. Something nvidia will sure to listen biggrin.gif
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I beg to differ sir: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-titan-opencl-cuda-workstation,3474-23.html - Fast, But Not A Workstation Card.

NVIDIA designed the GeForce GTX TITAN to show what their Kepler architecture is capable of.

*cough*

http://www.nvidia.com/object/tesla-servers.html

This is GK110's place.

Titan, as I said, was designed to make use of those GK110 dies that didn't cut it for Tesla K20/K20X cards but yet were functional. So they made a SKU to reuse those dies instead of just discarding them.
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They've been doing this since G80. All of their Big chips have been designed with GPGPU as the priority. Only thing different with GK110 was that it was released first as a tesla, it had enormous amounts of pre-orders from different supercomputers and that it's further away from AMD's offerings than GF100/110 and GT200/GT200b were.

More like CUDA in mind. nVIDIA's GPUs haven't been anywhere near stellar in open computing tools (OpenCL) in the past 4 generations compared even to AMD's desktop solutions.

But they did their homework and pushed CUDA to become the reference tool, so they got that part covered. That is bound to change, though.
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Either way the the titan is flying off the shelves and sellingout across the web. Something nvidia will sure to listen biggrin.gif

Please calm down hardcore green guy. A gpu that cost 1k its easy to be OOS because the availability is small. Like gtx690 or even gtx680 and 7970 on release, I remember it was OOS for like a month or more
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