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@alatar. I havent seen a good review from TPU like centuries

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_ares_ii_2_review,1.html

The 3dguru is way better

They have some extremely weird titles on their game list though.

Far Cry 2
Anno 2070
Bad company 2
AVP
Lost planet 2
Sniper elite V2.

Not exactly what I'd call a good suite if they include all that. Not quite as bad and outdated as tweaktown but definitely not as good as TPU's suite. I don't quite get why TPU reviews aren't good. What makes them bad?
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Originally Posted by Artikbot View Post

*cough*

http://www.nvidia.com/object/tesla-servers.html

This is GK110's place.

Titan, as I said, was designed to make use of those GK110 dies that didn't cut it for Tesla K20/K20X cards but yet were functional. So they made a SKU to reuse those dies instead of just discarding them.
More like CUDA in mind. nVIDIA's GPUs haven't been anywhere near stellar in open computing tools (OpenCL) in the past 4 generations compared even to AMD's desktop solutions.

But they did their homework and pushed CUDA to become the reference tool, so they got that part covered. That is bound to change, though.

Why is this being discussed? GK110 is no different than Nvidia's other big dies such as G80, GT200, GT200b, GF100, GF110.
 
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Originally Posted by mltms View Post

yeah twin titan will trash 7990 by 10%


and nvidia will trash you 2000$ looooool

As we pointed out, I love how you photoCHOPPED that photo just to TRY to hide the fact that something is seriously WACKED with their testing.

Well, you got outted. rolleyes.gif




But hey, by the looks of it, AMD *STILL* doesn't have the fastest card out there when you put cores together, nVidia does, and using YOUR link, the king is 2 GTX 680's, and it smokes the 7990 by almost twice the FPS. So 2 680 cores is twice as fast as the 2 cores on the brand new 7990.
Edited by 47 Knucklehead - 4/21/13 at 6:13am
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Originally Posted by Alatar View Post

Why is this being discussed? GK110 is no different than Nvidia's other big dies such as G80, GT200, GT200b, GF100, GF110.

It is. GK110 wasn't pushed to desktop in first instance, as you already pointed out, for other reasons such as yields, and supercomputer orders. And it's also the first time nVIDIA has traded so many DPFP performance (1/24 that of SPFP) to enhance performance in gaming situations. Mind you, it is a 30% slower in DPFP than a GTX580, which in turn was already slightly slower than a GTX480.
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Either way the the titan is flying off the shelves and sellingout across the web. Something nvidia will sure to listen biggrin.gif

Don't be fooled by selling out. I could send ten units to each shop and then claim 'OMG IT'S SELLING LIKE HOT CAKES' because they're sold out everywhere, but in reality, it only was because I sent little units.

Until we have graphs of actual shipped units, we won't know HOW many units they really sold. But one thing is sure. A number not relevant to the sales of the whole portfolio of dedicated desktop GPUs.


Edit: And the true BIG Kepler (K20X), currently retails at $8,000 for the OEM version for HP servers.
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It is. GK110 wasn't pushed to desktop in first instance, as you already pointed out, for other reasons such as yields, and supercomputer orders. And it's also the first time nVIDIA has traded so many DPFP performance (1/24 that of SPFP) to enhance performance in gaming situations. Mind you, it is a 30% slower in DPFP than a GTX580, which in turn was already slightly slower than a GTX480.

The single biggest reason why GK110 wasn't pushed out earlier was because there was no need at all. GF100 and GF110 were also extremely sought after by supercomputer firms and so on, this time just more so (mostly due to the TItan supercomputer order, around 20 000 chips, listen to anand podcast 17 or 16 for more info on that taking GK110 dies). All the other big chips were needed against ATi/AMD. GK110 really wasn't but it was brought out anyways because they had already designed to release it as a gaming GPU to counter AMD's new offerings (which we and NV now know never came out), excluding the 7990 of course. Purpose wise GK110 is no different than the other chips. It's the same old big die that focuses on GPGPU performance and doubles as a gaming GPU if and when needed.

Also are you talking about GK104 here with the compute stuff? If so then it's just a direction they've been trying to move in. You have to remember than before GF104 Nvidia only had rebranded G80 and G92 variants sold as those mid range cards. GF104 was something different for them and GK104 is refining on that.
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I'll wait for the frametime review. Titan could still be a better buy.
I'll take slow and tidy over fast and sloppy any day.

^This
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As we pointed out, I love how you photoCHOPPED that photo just to TRY to hide the fact that something is seriously WACKED with their testing.

Well, you got outted. rolleyes.gif




But hey, by the looks of it, AMD *STILL* doesn't have the fastest card out there when you put cores together, nVidia does, and using YOUR link, the king is 2 GTX 680's, and it smokes the 7990 by almost twice the FPS. So 2 680 cores is twice as fast as the 2 cores on the brand new 7990.

ok you ask for it




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It is. GK110 wasn't pushed to desktop in first instance, as you already pointed out, for other reasons such as yields, and supercomputer orders. And it's also the first time nVIDIA has traded so many DPFP performance (1/24 that of SPFP) to enhance performance in gaming situations. Mind you, it is a 30% slower in DPFP than a GTX580, which in turn was already slightly slower than a GTX480.
Don't be fooled by selling out. I could send ten units to each shop and then claim 'OMG IT'S SELLING LIKE HOT CAKES' because they're sold out everywhere, but in reality, it only was because I sent little units.

Until we have graphs of actual shipped units, we won't know HOW many units they really sold. But one thing is sure. A number not relevant to the sales of the whole portfolio of dedicated desktop GPUs.


Edit: And the true BIG Kepler (K20X), currently retails at $8,000 for the OEM version for HP servers.

 

That's because GK104 was not the biggest chip in their pipeline. Let alone that an average consumer interested in GPGPU (ray trace, regular parallel computations) uses FP32 anyways unless you do some mission critical science in your house...

 

GF104/114 were also cut back on this...

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ok you ask for it




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The funny part is that if you take an average out of all the graphs (multi monitor ones) in that review you end up with a result that Titan SLI is 26.3% faster than ARES II Quad CFX.
 
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Lots of fanboys in this thread. Time to clean up?
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Originally Posted by chcolatesnw View Post

And also beating an almost year old 690 is again, something to BRAG ABOUT?!?!!?!??!

whether the 690 had come out before or now would not change its position here its still effectively 2 680s on a single board. either way it still apparently loses to the 7990
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