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Originally Posted by lacrossewacker View Post

tsm, what are you going on about? This conversation rooted back from mltsms's screenshot he was trying to push. We're acknowledging how absurd that benchmark was (even showed SLI 680's beating EVERYTHING)

Maybe you didn't read back far enough to see what context alatar and blameless were framing their discussion in

I would stay out of this one buddy. TSM knows exactly what he's talking about and probably more than anyone here about quad 7970's.
 
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What the heck are you going on now about? Who brought up utilization, oh you did? And why? That's not the question that was the focus of the exchange.

Blameless was replying to a guy who was replying to my post that was about the guru3d review with obvious utilization problems? I don't think other quad setups than guru's 2x ARES II have been brought up in this thread. The exchange was in the context of the guru3 review (and the hardware.info one before that) which is why it's obvious that utilization is something that needs to be brought up. Unless you want to claim that the reviewer had no utilization issues with his GPUs.

What I don't get is why you responded to me with a doh.gif when all I said was that in that very specific review Titan SLI beats ARES II CFX by around 26%. This makes Blameless' reply to StayFrosty correct (he just points out that 2x ARES II is essentially the same as quad 7970s) correct unless you take it out of context and assume it's about all quad 7970/Titan SLI setups ever and was meant as a general statement about their performance level. It wasn't, it was a reply in a chain of posts about a specific guru3d review.
 
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I would stay out of this one buddy. TSM knows exactly what he's talking about and probably more than anyone here about quad 7970's.

 

tsm just didn't read back far enough, happens to anyone in a cluttered thread like this. No need to get all fired up though. Also, you don't have to be genius to know that 4x 7970s pwn 2 Titans tongue.gif

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Never been a fan of dual GPU cards.
The real king is the fastest single GPU imo.

Unless it was AMD that had the fastest single GPU and nVidia with the fastest dual-GPU card...
     
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tsm just didn't read back far enough, happens to anyone in a cluttered thread like this. No need to get all fired up though. Also, you don't have to be genius to know that 4x 7970s pwn 2 Titans 
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Oh no worries, I wasn't getting fired up, just pointing out some facts. tongue.gif
 
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Oh no worries, I wasn't getting fired up, just pointing out some facts. tongue.gif

 

Not you man, tsm

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tsm just didn't read back far enough, happens to anyone in a cluttered thread like this. No need to get all fired up though. Also, you don't have to be genius to know that 4x 7970s pwn 2 Titans 
tongue.gif

Oh no worries, I wasn't getting fired up, just pointing out some facts. tongue.gif


Alatar was talking about how Titans were faster and less expensive by whatever X% and was referring to Erics TItan vs Tahiti 2 card tests. Then the question was asked why not compare against two regular 7970s when Blameless inferred that it didn't matter since an Ares II is two 7970s anyways. And the latter part of his statement is where I entered.

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The ARES II is dual GPU card. It's essentially a higher clocked 7990. Two Titans in SLI are is faster than two ARES IIs/7990s, or four 7970s.


And where does all the whatever come into play here??


I didn't see where he could have written judging by whatever silly review it shows "Two Titans in SLI are is faster than two ARES IIs/7990s, or four 7970s" but we know that that isn't true???
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Alatar was talking about how Titans were faster and less expensive by whatever X% and was referring to Erics TItan vs Tahiti 2 card tests. Then the question was asked why not compare against two regular 7970s when Blameless inferred that it didn't matter since an Ares II is two 7970s anyways. And the latter part of his statement is where I entered.
And where does all the whatever come into play here??


I didn't see where he could have written judging by whatever silly review it shows "Two Titans in SLI are is faster than two ARES IIs/7990s, or four 7970s" but we know that that isn't true???

I was actually talking about the guru3d review and saying it was silly like almost all reviews made on the subject by review sites.

After making those comparisons I pointed out to eric's review and said that's the best thing you'll find.

StayFrosty asked me why I didn't compare to normal 7970s because I was using the ARES II cards that were in guru's review for my comparisons. Which is where all this 4-way stuff came from and which is why Blameless' reply to StayFrosty was about the guru3d review.

I purposefully picked on the 4-way configuration in guru's review to show why some examples like the one in this post are bad. Using the same review to prove a completely different point that cast a completely opposite light on the GPUs in question. I don't really care about ARES II price/perf or quad CFX perf in half the games they tested and I do not claim that the review is indicative of the general performance of the setup. Just like people shouldn't do the same with a single graph.

All I actually want here is that people should stop taking graphs out of context and using a single graph in a single review at a single resolution as blanket statement about general performance of card X. Situations change and you need more stuff than a single BF3 graph to make a statement about general performance. There really isn't even a single correct answer due to all the different applications and configs out there.
 
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Alatar was talking about how Titans were faster and less expensive by whatever X% and was referring to Erics TItan vs Tahiti 2 card tests. Then the question was asked why not compare against two regular 7970s when Blameless inferred that it didn't matter since an Ares II is two 7970s anyways. And the latter part of his statement is where I entered.
And where does all the whatever come into play here??


I didn't see where he could have written judging by whatever silly review it shows "Two Titans in SLI are is faster than two ARES IIs/7990s, or four 7970s" but we know that that isn't true???

You picked the wrong guy to correct. The problem started with StayFrosty and mmlts. Not Blameless or Alatar. A single look at Blameless' post history should give you an idea that he's someone with more knowledge than you give him credit for.

In fact you're doing the exact same thing StayFrosty was doing...
Edited by TheBlademaster01 - 4/21/13 at 2:43pm
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Unless it was AMD that had the fastest single GPU and nVidia with the fastest dual-GPU card...
Nope.
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