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This has been a long night... thanks again all for the great info. smile.gif

Matt brought up the idea of using my existing ram... it's ddr3 1600 4x4gb I could save $224 by dropping the ram I have in the cart .... the question would be... will I see much of a performance gain by adding the additional 16gb? I could use the extra ram as a ram disc (not ever tried this) for Photoshop as the scratch disk correct?

Hatch

Build without the 32gb ram $1673.00
Edited by Hatch1921 - 4/21/13 at 5:21am
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I'm running this right now http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233143 I could save the $244 and pass on the 32gb .... will think about it... the ram is less than year old I have in the system now.

Yeah, well you could get a bigger SSD or something or a water-loop if you budget out in other areas. thumb.gif

EDIT: or save it for a future build, I.E when you want a new GPU later down the road you can sell the current ones and have $250 to plop on top of the sale of your GPU(s).
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This has been a long night... thanks again all for the great info. smile.gif

Matt brought up the idea of using my existing ram... it's ddr3 1600 4x4gb I could save $224 by dropping the ram I have in the cart .... the question would be... will I see much of a performance gain by adding the additional 16gb? I could use the extra ram as a ram disc (not ever tried this) for Photoshop as the scratch disk correct?

Hatch

Build without the 32gb ram $1673.00

You won't see much performance increase in going from 16 to 32GB unless you're currently using more then 16GB often enough to make it worth $225? You're honestly best off with 16GB for now and maybe even get it later if you feel you need it or wait for a coupon maybe?

There is nothing wrong with 1600MHz in the form of 4GB sticks, it still works smile.gif

Also RAMDisks are cool, but remember you lose everything when the PC is shutdown. It's cool and super-fast BUT you can lose everything like that if the power goes out or a system crash.

A SSD is fast enough I personally think, you'd be better off putting more into a bigger SSD if you want fast space, or get a RAID array of SSD's if you feel that they're sluggish.
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Yes your ram that you have already is perfectly fine, you can just transfer that over. Take a look at my post #32, if you are interested in a 2011 system i updated my post with one, and there are a few spots that could make it cheaper, like reusing your ram!

* Are you running out of available ram with what you do? I do not use those programs so I do not know if you need 32 or 16 gb. You will notice a difference if you were hitting your ram limit previously. I would not say more ram makes your computer faster, just prevents it from slowing down once it would hit its limit.
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Nice list but ordering from so many stores is going to end up costing you more on shipping... Than if you buy at one place!!

Prices take shipping fees into account, that's the whole point of this website...

BTW, 500W PSU is fine for a single 7970, 650W for Crossfire.
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Yes your ram that you have already is perfectly fine, you can just transfer that over. Take a look at my post #32, if you are interested in a 2011 system i updated my post with one, and there are a few spots that could make it cheaper, like reusing your ram!

Please keep in mind... I haven't parted out a pc is 4 years... looking over the 2011 chip... the hex core would be the benefit here correct? And the apps taking advantage of hyper-threading.
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This has been a long night... thanks again all for the great info. smile.gif

Matt brought up the idea of using my existing ram... it's ddr3 1600 4x4gb I could save $224 by dropping the ram I have in the cart .... the question would be... will I see much of a performance gain by adding the additional 16gb? I could use the extra ram as a ram disc (not ever tried this) for Photoshop as the scratch disk correct?

Hatch

Build without the 32gb ram $1673.00

The 16 GB ram disk would blow you away when you ade editing pictures. I know from experience, I use it for this and also for scratch disc to encode video.. and it has almost doubled the time working with video and pictures editing is in-stannous. Now I don't use Photoshop I use Photoshop elements. but I would think you would have a big gain!!!
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Please keep in mind... I haven't parted out a pc is 4 years... looking over the 2011 chip... the hex core would be the benefit here correct? And the apps taking advantage of hyper-threading.

Yes the 6 cores would benefit you in Adobe Photoshop. But you also the ram disk..
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Please keep in mind... I haven't parted out a pc is 4 years... looking over the 2011 chip... the hex core would be the benefit here correct? And the apps taking advantage of hyper-threading.
It is my understanding when working with the photo and video programs, because they are usually heavily threaded, they benefit from more cores/threads. If you are waiting around a lot for rendering, or whatever you are doing, this may be an option you would like. Also, keep in mind there are still some places to cut some costs in what I posted, for example the mobo I posted I believe is one of the more expensive ones which you could switch depending on what features you want.
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Prices out the 2011 build and it's $1666

Really great info all... and I know I've said this... but... thanks again for everything.

Will tinker with the build some more... ..I need to read up on the 2011 motherboards as well.
Edited by Hatch1921 - 4/21/13 at 5:42am
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Prices take shipping fees into account, that's the whole point of this website...

BTW, 500W PSU is fine for a single 7970, 650W for Crossfire.

Yes, but at the same time I'd suggest more just to be safe. Probably a 650W for a single card (overclocking, masses of HDD's new GPU, expansion. etc) and 750W for dual.
That being said my not even 2 year old OCZ (Seasonic) 750W PSU refused to boot with two 7950's, bought a new 850W and it's fine. (I'm not saying it's the wattage) but more to the point PSU's degrade over time.
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Yes your ram that you have already is perfectly fine, you can just transfer that over. Take a look at my post #32, if you are interested in a 2011 system i updated my post with one, and there are a few spots that could make it cheaper, like reusing your ram!

* Are you running out of available ram with what you do? I do not use those programs so I do not know if you need 32 or 16 gb. You will notice a difference if you were hitting your ram limit previously. I would not say more ram makes your computer faster, just prevents it from slowing down once it would hit its limit.

FINALLY, someone that speaks the truth!
I've been through TAFE (Adult learning) and now I'm in University and we have still been taught that more RAM = a faster computer..
 
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