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So as it happens, I was dumpster diving for computers and parts at the local schools and large corporations around here. I found a few laptops and figured they would make nice projects. Got 4 out of the 12 I found cleaned up and working but, they seem to be picky. I can get Arch to run on them no problem, along with Debian and Cent, but Ubuntu and Fedora refuse to start. I can load the ISO and get to the boot menu, but shortly after immediately after pressing enter to boot the image, those 2 bring up a white screen with a blinking cursor.


Ignore the first line, that's just from the BIOS clock not being set after I recently pulled
the RTC battery, with the clock set it's just pure white


For those interested they are HP Compaq NC6400 laptops. Each react the same.

Just wondering if anyone else has seen this or heard of it? smile.gif
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sounds like the typical problem with the vesa driver that i had with ubuntu when nouveau was being stupid with the nvidia gtx 400 series.

 

had to pass -nomodeset to the kernel.

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HA. Not sure why I didn't think of that... Guess it's cause I haven't really ever had to use it myself until now. Brain fart day too >_> But it did work smile.gif

Thanks Transhour. wubsmiley.gifthumb.gif

Would rep but... you know ... sad-smiley-002.gif
Edited by Shrak - 4/22/13 at 12:22pm
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no problem :) yeah its little things like this we always forget to check. I have a checklist written down somewhere called "common stupid problems to check first".

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no problem smile.gif yeah its little things like this we always forget to check. I have a checklist written down somewhere called "common stupid problems to check first".

Not to OT things...but that checklist sounds worthy of an article or sticky.

Just out of curiosity is the reason Arch didn't have a problem because you don't have a GUI/DE or drivers when you first get things setup?
     
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Pretty much yes, my Arch ISO starts with nomodeset automatically just to eliminate these type of problems problems.

Anyways, I got Fedora installed and running, Gnome 3 was laggy due to not having any video drivers running aside from the basic ones, installed the xf86-video-ati drivers and loaded the radeon module and still laggy as all can be. Tried a few more things and still couldn't get it to work properly. Decided to just install my tried and true Arch image loaded xf86-video-ati and the radeon module modeset and it's running beautifully. I'm really not a fan of AMD/ATI graphics, lol.

Although there are other issues it had. Arch without nomodeset seemed to panic before anything really loaded. It would go to mount the root drive and just completely lock up. And there's a few instances I found on the Arch forums with the same laptop and relatively same issue; here's one and linked in that one is another. So basically I'm stuck with nomodeset on the kernel boot and then immediately after have a service load the radeon driver and modeset to get it to boot properly. Bit of a pain but it works.

First time I've had to bother with them in my own machines in ages ( at least since the AGP days ). Can't say the experience was any better, granted the laptop had a relatively old card not support by the fglrx drivers anymore. VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI M52 [Mobility Radeon X1300]. Will be a fun machine to mess around with though.

Though I loaded up one of my old Ubuntu 8.04 discs and it didn't have a single problem. Almost just decided to keep that on there, lol.
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yeah it was around 10.10 i want to say when ubuntu started to shove gallium/novuea down our throats, building it into the kernel like they have (but i actually want to say the kernel team did that). Ubuntu does have a fallback mode, that launches with -nomodeset, but you first got to get it to go the boot menu (which i think its like holding down ctrl or something). 

 

this happened to me last year when i got a 460gtx, i was on 11.10, i wasn't able to use the live installer again till 12.10...even passing the nomodeset, the installer would lock up on me...so i had to use alternative....which is mind blowingly slow...

 

@rookie, its got like 8 things on it, most of them related to things i do, most of it appears in articles/guides i've already done. 

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yeah it was around 10.10 i want to say when ubuntu started to shove gallium/novuea down our throats, building it into the kernel like they have (but i actually want to say the kernel team did that). Ubuntu does have a fallback mode, that launches with -nomodeset, but you first got to get it to go the boot menu (which i think its like holding down ctrl or something). 

this happened to me last year when i got a 460gtx, i was on 11.10, i wasn't able to use the live installer again till 12.10...even passing the nomodeset, the installer would lock up on me...so i had to use alternative....which is mind blowingly slow...

@rookie, its got like 8 things on it, most of them related to things i do, most of it appears in articles/guides i've already done. 

A lot of it is the kernel team for nouveau stuff. Before I sold the 460s Fedora also gave me hell, even Debian was all glitchy on video drivers until I got the proprietary ones done. I think it's the push for automation and the shift nouveau has had since they took over the FOSS drivers. Who knows, just makes things more difficult at times. I believe a few of the newer distros didn't hate on me when it came to that, so it might be just specific patch sets or something. Who knows, distro's love patchin up kernels as they see fit which is [more or less] fine.
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