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post #101 of 25893
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Originally Posted by Zoxc View Post

I have a Spyder 3 so I can correct for it. It does however result in increased posterization. I also got decreased uniformity on higher refresh rates like dascth depicted.
6-bit panels + dithering is quite common: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/news_archive/23.htm#colour_depths
Probably won't hurt to try...
Temporal dithering isn't limited to 6 bit panels.

That being said, the PLS panel used (LTM270DL02) is a true 8 bit panel.
post #102 of 25893
So the general consensus is to buy this monitor right? It's definitely well worth the $290? I'm still in between of getting it or not.

Thanks!
post #103 of 25893
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Originally Posted by Jboss View Post

So the general consensus is to buy this monitor right? It's definitely well worth the $290? I'm still in between of getting it or not.

Thanks!

It's definitely worth buying right now before the prices hit in the 400-500$ range.
post #104 of 25893
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Originally Posted by halodude23 View Post

It's definitely worth buying right now before the prices hit in the 400-500$ range.

I have another question if you don't mind, there are multiple sellers for these monitor as we all can see. It seems like dream-seller has the most reports of being able to OC at 120 hz, this should be irrelevant since everyone is selling the same monitor right and that it's luck of the draw if your panel OC's to 120 hz or not right?

Cheers thumb.gif!
post #105 of 25893
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Originally Posted by Jboss View Post

I have another question if you don't mind, there are multiple sellers for these monitor as we all can see. It seems like dream-seller has the most reports of being able to OC at 120 hz, this should be irrelevant since everyone is selling the same monitor right and that it's luck of the draw if your panel OC's to 120 hz or not right?

Cheers thumb.gif!

It's definitely based on luck, whether you can hit 120 hz or not. The DL-DVI cable they supply might be a detriment so I highly recommend getting a high quality one from Monoprice.
There's the 28 AWG cable which is more flexible and there's also the 24 AWG which is more rigid and solid. Frankly speaking, it's totally up to you what you want.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10209


I think all the sellers have been great so far but DreamSeller has been mysteriously getting reports of not sending monitors or replying back to PMs so I'm not sure. My seller was ExcellentCastle and I received 2/3 excellent monitors with about 1 dead pixel and backlight bleeding that I can deal with smile.gif
post #106 of 25893
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Originally Posted by halodude23 View Post

It's definitely based on luck, whether you can hit 120 hz or not. The DL-DVI cable they supply might be a detriment so I highly recommend getting a high quality one from Monoprice.
There's the 28 AWG cable which is more flexible and there's also the 24 AWG which is more rigid and solid. Frankly speaking, it's totally up to you what you want.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10209


I think all the sellers have been great so far but DreamSeller has been mysteriously getting reports of not sending monitors or replying back to PMs so I'm not sure. My seller was ExcellentCastle and I received 2/3 excellent monitors with about 1 dead pixel and backlight bleeding that I can deal with smile.gif

Thank you very much!
post #107 of 25893
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Originally Posted by Jboss View Post

I have another question if you don't mind, there are multiple sellers for these monitor as we all can see. It seems like dream-seller has the most reports of being able to OC at 120 hz, this should be irrelevant since everyone is selling the same monitor right and that it's luck of the draw if your panel OC's to 120 hz or not right?

Cheers thumb.gif!

Based off the data given, probability speaking it looks like dream-seller panels have a higher chance to OC to 120 Hz. However, that is just based on the data which has been reported here (quite limited). A much greater amount of people are buying these monitors and not reporting here, so if anything I think that the current data just shows that more people are buying from deam-seller and OC'ing then posting here.

So just to be clear, I don't think the data reported here (members who have signed up and reported to buy from dream-seller) is conclusive enough at this time to clearly state that dream-seller panels have the best chance of OC. Maybe once more people report in after their purchase we can get a clearer answer. Sorry if that was confusing
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post #108 of 25893
Ok so here it goes.

I bought my monitor from BCC last thrusday. I got it monday which is very good over the weekend (i quite frankly expected tuesday). I have a crossover blade which i can confirm is the identical bezel/housing. After setting it up for the first time i did indeed have to push the power button which is a little odd as the LED light status is reversed between it and the crossover. I can confirm that the bios does show and looks fine. after at the desktop i can confirm this is a bit yellow at stock colors. After applying the 120hz color profile in this thread it looked WAY better but i still had to adjust the grey scale to get rid of some red effect. using an all white screen i found 1 dead pixel at the very bottom of the screen(i will never see it). Using all white i have no clouding at 60hz. Using an all black screen there is absolutely no back-light bleed at all. I mean i have Asus monitors that make this look like heaven for Backlight bleed.

Now time to start OC.

I first applied the pixel patch from toasty to unleash the SLI GTX570s i have. Then i put it into test mode and removed the watermark via the tool found on the overclocking thread for this monitor. I went for broke and set it to 120hz using CRU and mad.gif all artifacts. I then changed CRU to use LCD reduced. Still got artifacts. Then my last chance was using the stock cable and BAM 120hz no problems at all. I was using a 28 gauge cable from monoprice just to let everyone know it is definitely worth trying teh stock cable. I did have a significant reduction in brightness and color accuracy at 120hz so i then applied the 120hz icc profile listed here. This helped a LOT but i still had to do some color management to get rid of some yellowing effects. I also did a refresh rate multitool test and can see no dropped frames. For comparison i set my crossover to 70hz and did the same test and really it is quite easy to see dropped frames with this tool (if you can manage to look at the screen without getting sick). If you really want to test the 120hz vs 60hz open up a window with the option "show window contents while dragged" on and sling it all over the screen on teh 120hz then do it at 60hz you will know

Now time to Game

So at first try no games i have would use the darn 120hz and sit at 60hz constantly. I then found the custom driver people used for the catleap 2Bs and manually forced the monitor to use this driver. This solved EVERYTHING with games. Every game uses the screen refresh rate now. I also can tell everyone that nvidia's "smooth" vsync caused issues and you should definitely try just turning vsync on. You also want to make sure in game vsync is turned off as it sometimes will push it back to 60hz. Games at 120hz are exactly what you would expect MEGA smooth and motion blur is almost none existent for me. I tried several benchmarking programs such as 3dmark vantage, crysis physx, etc and i can say the input lag is very good compared to other monitors with scalers. Your really not going to do much better without a 2ms response time with no scaler. I hardest part now is getting 120fps consistently even with 2 GTX570s it takes some horsepower to do.

Now time for videos

I use MPC-HC with LAV and madvr for all my videos. I can tell a huge difference in playback smoothness with 120hz. The motion just seems clearer when things are moving fast and in scenes where there is a close-ups of people talking. the quality of the color and sharpness is comparable to the crossover but i think the IPS display is a bit better at brighter colors (may just be me or the brightness scale). I did test video playback refresh with FRAPS and it states 120hz constantly.

To sum it up

These monitors are the best thing since the 2Bs period. Just the mouse movement on the screen is greatly noticeable. the colors are outstanding (after calibration). The 120hz with some effort is not only possible but from all the reading all the posts here is likely(not guaranteed) if you use the correct combination of settings. The quality comparison with the crossover blade IPS panel is easily matched with adjustments and (something i left out) the blacks are WAY better. This is the best monitor i have ever owned and i now have a crossover blade for sale :rolleyes:At 300 it is more than worth it and makes me feel like i almost stole it.biggrin.gif.

When push comes to shove the only thing for this monitor to do now is pass the test of time
Edited by Spartan F8 - 4/24/13 at 1:10pm
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Maybe you should add a poll option for where you are located and how much customs/vat etc you paid ?

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post #110 of 25893
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Originally Posted by wntrsnowg View Post

Based off the data given, probability speaking it looks like dream-seller panels have a higher chance to OC to 120 Hz. However, that is just based on the data which has been reported here (quite limited). A much greater amount of people are buying these monitors and not reporting here, so if anything I think that the current data just shows that more people are buying from deam-seller and OC'ing then posting here.

So just to be clear, I don't think the data reported here (members who have signed up and reported to buy from dream-seller) is conclusive enough at this time to clearly state that dream-seller panels have the best chance of OC. Maybe once more people report in after their purchase we can get a clearer answer. Sorry if that was confusing

The thing is it'll be to late once we have a proper amount of reports to see which buyer/panel is the best to get because prices might go up!?
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