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Originally Posted by Xenzeus View Post

Hey guys, I'm about to order a glossy qnix displayport from accessorieswhole and just wondering that If I still would be able to OC with displayport.

No you can't and it is a real shame that you can't since DP has the highest data rate of any of the ports currently out. I have a Qnix DP model for my wife since she connects her MAC to it as well and could not overclock with the DP at all.
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I don't think you can..

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Originally Posted by Spartan F8 View Post

No you can't and it is a real shame that you can't since DP has the highest data rate of any of the ports currently out. I have a Qnix DP model for my wife since she connects her MAC to it as well and could not overclock with the DP at all.

Well, that's suck. I thought the fact dp is better than dvi means it can do everything dvi does. Thankfully, I haven't ordered it yet. Thanks guys.
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Hey guys, I'm about to order a glossy qnix displayport from accessorieswhole and just wondering that If I still would be able to OC with displayport.

Just so you know, thats a matte panel with a piece of glass.....so no glossy advantages. ...confirmed with seller because I was looking at the same one.
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Haha no you don't need to worry. At least not on account of me. My monitor was only a few weeks old. Huge fight at home. I was in the wrong. Long story short my wife punched the monitor about six times lmao. So yeah. That sucked. We've since made up biggrin.gif

Hahaha that is too funny, thanks and hope you're enjoying the new monitor wink.gif haha

Does anyone know if you can do a no pixel test without an actual GPU? Im waiting for the non reference 290s but have ordered my monitors, will the no pixel test work with the on board graphics? Im worried if it cant display at that resolution then it doesnt fill all pixels to test or something?
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Ha! The luck of getting 2 monitors in a row w/ a color off balance of the same type ! lachen.gif

Oh well 5th times the charm amirite? biggrin.gif

So it seems some have warm filters and others have cool filters (effects)
Why not buy a colorimeter and use it to calibrate all the monitors? Then they'll look more alike than ever before. It's not practical to keep trying your luck for another monitor in the hopes of getting ones that are close in color, that's not logical. There are loads of colorimeters out there, like the Spyder4 (Express, skip the higher packages) or the X-Rite i1 Display Pro (higher-end) or the ColorMunki Display (same sensor as the i1DP apparently, takes longer to measure, and no SDK made available --> usable only with 3rd-party software that offer reverse-engineered support aka HCFR + ArgyllCMS).

If you opt for any of these except the i1DP you can use 3rd-party software with them and save the cost of getting the respective company's software. Also doable with the i1DP as 3rd-party software, paid and non-paid, is quite excellent. I use ArgyllCMS myself on a Spyder4Express.
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Now having three of these monitors at 96hz, I am quite happy.

My only concern is with the whole 4K stuff being shown etc...

I am assuming my next set of monitors are going to be 30" 4K 120Hz or better. Does anyone know what kind of timeframe we are talking about for monitors like this (at least for the price ranges we see with these Korean monitors?)....

Just wondering how long these 27"s I have will last me lol
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Why not buy a colorimeter and use it to calibrate all the monitors? Then they'll look more alike than ever before. It's not practical to keep trying your luck for another monitor in the hopes of getting ones that are close in color, that's not logical. There are loads of colorimeters out there, like the Spyder4 (Express, skip the higher packages) or the X-Rite i1 Display Pro (higher-end) or the ColorMunki Display (same sensor as the i1DP apparently, takes longer to measure, and no SDK made available --> usable only with 3rd-party software that offer reverse-engineered support aka HCFR + ArgyllCMS).

If you opt for any of these except the i1DP you can use 3rd-party software with them and save the cost of getting the respective company's software. Also doable with the i1DP as 3rd-party software, paid and non-paid, is quite excellent. I use ArgyllCMS myself on a Spyder4Express.

Cuz it's easier to just have 3 that are the same, I have 2 that are the same first try with both just these other 2 have been the same so next one should fix it, + I'm replacing them all with real gloss ones anyways.

2nd, people are reporting that the color profiles aren't working in games, and other things, so vs having to custom load, that + the ICM I load on one loads across them , as they're all diff, they don't seem to keep their own, this is just one issue I'm seeing currently, not sure where the issue lies but hope its with nvidia and fixed later.

More logical this way, and less expensive. If the color's off there no reason for me to keep it just to pay 60-130$ for a device I'm only gonna use once to fix or push a defect that still will not match up perfectly without additional work and even then will still be off due to the imbalance should it be washed out. THAT is illogical. Customer satisfaction all the way.
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Cuz it's easier to just have 3 that are the same, I have 2 that are the same first try with both just these other 2 have been the same so next one should fix it, + I'm replacing them all with real gloss ones anyways.

2nd, people are reporting that the color profiles aren't working in games, and other things, so vs having to custom load, that + the ICM I load on one loads across them , as they're all diff, they don't seem to keep their own, this is just one issue I'm seeing currently, not sure where the issue lies but hope its with nvidia and fixed later.

More logical this way, and less expensive. If the color's off there no reason for me to keep it just to pay 60-130$ for a device I'm only gonna use once to fix or push a defect that still will not match up perfectly without additional work and even then will still be off due to the imbalance should it be washed out. THAT is illogical. Customer satisfaction all the way.
Hoo boy.

How exactly are you calibrating your monitors, by eye? At 120Hz? Well, good luck. Because the gamma shift is not really a gamma shift equally at all points but rather one that requires multi-point gamma calibration, aka like the vast majority of gamma errors.

Huge efforts are made to color-match produced content on hugely expensive monitors like NECs, Eizos, HP, Dells, etc... so that the content displays the colors the creator of such content wants you to see and you blow it all by moving a slider that you think fixes something and messes up pretty much everything else. You'll be getting an inaccurate whitepoint, inaccurate gamma, inaccurate grayscale, inaccurate colors, banding, etc... the works. While you think that "looks good", it doesn't. You'll know what looks good when you take a look at a calibrated monitor.

The Qnix drifts, it drifts colors rapidly when it is overclocked; one user here reported that he had to recalibrate once every month @60Hz, once every week or so @ 120Hz IIRC. I've been noticing my gamma being off since the first time I made a profile and set it to work, which used to give me almost perfect results (gamma ~2.19-2.21 IIRC) rather than the nasty 2.64 @ 96Hz and something like 2.93 @ 110Hz which is poo. You won't use the colorimeter once, you'll be using it regularly, and to complain about $90-130 (the Spyder4Express costs $80 now btw...) is not too logical...you have 3 Titans, 3 Qnixes going back and forth, and the seller is pretty much paying that sort of money for return shipping.

Customer satisfaction all the way, but Anal Customer Disorder is another thing entirely, especially when you're blowing all that effort by calibrating "by eye" and messing up the colors that you so much desired to get matched. These sellers are nice, but it's actions like these that lock down return policies and make them more suspicious of us. I don't remember a seller asking a customer to show them the dead pixel they got with a perfect pixel policy, but now accessorieswhole did when I told them I have a blue stuck pixel left of center. It's their right to ask for proof but obviously they have lost that customer - seller trust that used to exist just a while ago.

Save yourself the hassle, listen to proper advice, and go for a colorimeter so that you get your gamma accurate, your whites accurate, and your colors fantastic. I mean, I have a single monitor and having accurate colors is very very important, especially at 110Hz where the high gamma induces some sort of black crush (as mboner up there used to say, which is true) which makes sense as now the lower end of the grayscale is closer together when gamma > standard gamma = 2.2 (and the opposite is true, upper end grays are mashed when gamma < 2.2 which happens when you raise the gamma slider).

You have 3 monitors. A colorimeter itself has trouble matching these monitors due to variance, let alone being able to match them by eye.

For the second point, applying color profiles works when using MCW, Color Profile Keeper, or Color Clutch. No idea if some people simply don't have any way to enforce color profiles with Nvidia, but for other it works and that means there's a chance of PEBKAC and / or certain drivers messing up, a problem which I wouldn't bet on lasting forever if anything. I myself am in the process of making a color profile tool (no details now) using Color Clutch to preserve the color profiles in 3D application mode so if Color Clutch works for you (you need to test, if it works for you then there's no reason to worry about the color profiles not working in games. Obviously), there you go.

There's no "washed out", it's simply the case that some panels have yellow tints, others have blue tints. It's perfectly normal and would easily happen with other branded monitors. Heck, the Catleaps / Crossovers and the IPS variants have more variance than these PLS panels, you would have had a heart attack if you were going for the IPS variants.
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First person to PM me get my 35% off Square Trade coupon for their Qnix/Xstar.

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Edited by Jinru - 12/20/13 at 5:36pm
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Unless your doing professional graphics of some sort or use your computer for color determinant work then there is no reason to go buy a 60-400 dollar color calibrator. Yes it will be off but if you calibrate by your "eye" then it is your preference. If your not doing anything that needs to be 100% accurate who cares.

I have a spyder calibrator and yes there was an increase in accuracy when using it over the manual calibration. But for everyday use and gaming it is not worth it.
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