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Its a Christmas miracle! I hope your package is marked "With delivery courier" too!

Now to play the waiting game. If I miss this Truck today then I won't be able to get my package until Friday....

My DHL status is still on Step #11, but according to your previous post for the package that went to Los Angeles
that person received their package the same day so there is still hope for me!
You do have the option of leaving a signed note on your door but that's probably not very safe.
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Originally Posted by mboner1 View Post

Not necessarily true. Some are tempered glass and glossy. For the 100th time.:

100% True! The seller he was looking at only had tempered glass with a matte panel! I contacted them myself because I was looking at the same monitor.....yes there have been glossy panel with glass, but not in this case.

" Hi

Thanks for contacting us.
It is glass in front of a matte screen.



If you have any queries, please feel free to contact us.
Thank you.

- accessorieswhole"


It doesn't get any more true than that....


As for the Asus monitor....each person has to decide for themselves what they can live with or deal with. Mechanically the Asus is great, the stand is great, it adjusts up and down easily and has a lot of range, the bezel fits perfect, it tilts well, it pivots good, the plastic is high quality, the plastic is not glossy, it's heavy for its size, it doesn't wobble, etc etc. And I got a perfect panel with no backlight bleeding or dead pixels or anything. A small few complained about some issues with the buttons and other random issues, but you have a warranty to take care of those issues without paying extra and in most cases ASUS actually responded to any negative reviews with an offer for help.

Your going to pay more...no way around that, so if you have $320 and getting more is a problem, then the choice is easy....

You will always find some bad reviews on every monitor, but with the Korean monitors, people are expecting certain issues and then happy if they don't experience them. With a name brand monitor that costs more, people are expecting perfection, so any little thing trips a complaint....so it's all a matter of perspective.

One bad thing about the Korean monitors that I was struggling with is....you know your getting a reject panel. This is just the way it is, something about it did not pass QC, weather you want to admit it or are tuned to seeing it, it's still a reject for some reason and many are not because of dead pixels (so buying pixel perfect does not mean it is not a reject for some other reason). It may be very minor and it could even be something that is not seen once together....but its a gamble.

Anyway, you get what you pay for in this world. It always seems to hold true. Of course this all depends on the type of person you are, how picky you are, and how much time your willing to put into something to make it right. The Korean monitors are worth what your paying as long as your not being duped by some of the ones that are priced too high. I am not bashing them. They are a viable option and in some ways (speed) they are better than the name brands. However, your not stuck at 60 Hz with the ASUS. Most seem to get 80-85 out of them.

For me, I don't have much free time to mess with stuff and I will pay more for less troubles and hassles. It was not always this way though. 20 years ago, I would have bought the Korean monitor just because it was cheaper and I would have rolled the dice, but as you get older, have kids, work more, commute longer, etc. your view on value changes. Money is easier to get and time is harder to find......

I am also super picky, so one bad pixel, a bowed out frame, or other issue would irritate me. If I got one with a problem, I would have a hard time living with it and so I just avoided the possibility by paying more and buying locally. I am sure I am in the minority on this thread...so please don't think I am trying to talk anyone out of the Korean monitor. I was very close to buying one myself and it was not an easy choice.
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Originally Posted by Psychohack View Post

100% True! The seller he was looking at only had tempered glass with a matte panel! I contacted them myself because I was looking at the same monitor.....yes there have been glossy panel with glass, but not in this case.

" Hi

Thanks for contacting us.
It is glass in front of a matte screen.



If you have any queries, please feel free to contact us.
Thank you.

- accessorieswhole"


It doesn't get any more true than that....


As for the Asus monitor....each person has to decide for themselves what they can live with or deal with. Mechanically the Asus is great, the stand is great, it adjusts up and down easily and has a lot of range, the bezel fits perfect, it tilts well, it pivots good, the plastic is high quality, the plastic is not glossy, it's heavy for its size, it doesn't wobble, etc etc. And I got a perfect panel with no backlight bleeding or dead pixels or anything. A small few complained about some issues with the buttons and other random issues, but you have a warranty to take care of those issues without paying extra and in most cases ASUS actually responded to any negative reviews with an offer for help.

Your going to pay more...no way around that, so if you have $320 and getting more is a problem, then the choice is easy....

You will always find some bad reviews on every monitor, but with the Korean monitors, people are expecting certain issues and then happy if they don't experience them. With a name brand monitor that costs more, people are expecting perfection, so any little thing trips a complaint....so it's all a matter of perspective.

One bad thing about the Korean monitors that I was struggling with is....you know your getting a reject panel. This is just the way it is, something about it did not pass QC, weather you want to admit it or are tuned to seeing it, it's still a reject for some reason and many are not because of dead pixels (so buying pixel perfect does not mean it is not a reject for some other reason). It may be very minor and it could even be something that is not seen once together....but its a gamble.

Anyway, you get what you pay for in this world. It always seems to hold true. Of course this all depends on the type of person you are, how picky you are, and how much time your willing to put into something to make it right. The Korean monitors are worth what your paying as long as your not being duped by some of the ones that are priced too high. I am not bashing them. They are a viable option and in some ways (speed) they are better than the name brands. However, your not stuck at 60 Hz with the ASUS. Most seem to get 80-85 out of them.

For me, I don't have much free time to mess with stuff and I will pay more for less troubles and hassles. It was not always this way though. 20 years ago, I would have bought the Korean monitor just because it was cheaper and I would have rolled the dice, but as you get older, have kids, work more, commute longer, etc. your view on value changes. Money is easier to get and time is harder to find......

I am also super picky, so one bad pixel, a bowed out frame, or other issue would irritate me. If I got one with a problem, I would have a hard time living with it and so I just avoided the possibility by paying more and buying locally. I am sure I am in the minority on this thread...so please don't think I am trying to talk anyone out of the Korean monitor. I was very close to buying one myself and it was not an easy choice.

Great post. I'm sure you bought the right monitor. I know that buying the Korean monitors is a gamble but it is a viable option for some of us to get 2550x1440 resolution and having a good chance to overclock to 120hz.

And of course then there is the downside with the quality control, dead pixels, & bleeding. mad.gif
For the $200 - $300 price difference I guess that is a chance some of us are willing to take.
It still baffles me how they can offer free shipping and still make money on the sale.confused.gif
Edited by ledger - 12/24/13 at 9:30am
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They make money on these because they are defect panels that would otherwise go in the trash.

Not to scare anyone away, usually the defect is minor enough that it won't affect your experience.
    
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So I have some issues running this screen properly on my R9-280x crossfire. i have connected both crossfire connectors on my cards. so when i run 96Hz on my desktop and my cards going in full clocked down mode. 300mhz core and 150 memory I get green dots etc etc in media playback and sometimes it will scree jump. the only way that I can fix this is by forcing my gpu to 500mhz core and 1500mhz memory. I'm using LCD reduced. Is there any way of fixing this so that I can enjoy power saving and lower temps while still having 96Hz?

Just naother note when I leave everything default and just push the hz to 96Hz then my top card stays at 500MHz/1500MHz and don't downclock but my idle temps is something like 47C with 30% fan speed. on 40% fan speed I get some coil whie but my Graphics cards is working fine.


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^ I'm still thinking what ASUS monitor Psychohack talks about? This would be my 2nd question, the first question was directly asked to him... thinking.gif
Edited by Loktar Ogar - 12/24/13 at 10:00am
    
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Great post. I'm sure you bought the right monitor for you. I know that buying the Korean monitors is a gamble but it is a viable option for some of us to get 2550x1440 resolution and having a good chance to overclock to 120hz.

And of course then there is the downside with the quality control, dead pixels, & bleeding. mad.gif
For the $200 - $300 price difference I guess that is a chance some of us are willing to take.
It still baffles me how they can offer free shipping and still make money on the sale.confused.gif

Labor prices smile.gif They may be paying cheaper Korean prices on their end for the shipping as well (not sure on that one). I am sure they are getting the panels near, at, or below the manufacturers cost since they did not meet QC standards (which is probably their cousin down the street). They did hardly any R&D, kept the electronics to a minimal which saved on Engineering time and cost to produce. They are not following a strict approved vendor list on properly tested "name brand" electronic components. They are very likely using cheap knockoffs of simple things like transistors and capacitors, etc. Their mark up is smaller than the big names because they are selling directly from Korea with no USA distribution costs. Etc. Etc.

There is a huge difference between a Korean designed, made, and distributed product and a "name brand" designed, dictated, and manufactured in Korea product. Name brands have to protect their name brands. QNIX can just change their name tomorrow and lose nothing....I did work as a manufacturing engineer (with electronics degree) and visited China several times to oversee several outsourcing projects frown.gif I was also the guy that had to analyze the samples and review every component they used. Well you usually get crap the first couple times around and you have to force them to use an approved vendor list on components or you will get substandard stuff.

I am not going to go into it to deeply, but having an approved vendor list for every single component vs them just building it their way is a HUGE difference. I have seen them take a USA designed and built product and make their version without an AVL and it was night and day just looking at them. And once you get into the electronic components, forget it.....they have some crazy junk components in China. They even copy name brand spec sheets line for line that it is so obvious they never did the proper testing to generate their own spec sheets. It is ridiculous. Anyway, you can get stuff made overseas that is super high quality, but if it is not dictated and controlled by a "Brand Name", forget it....they will do the bare minimum and cheap out everything just to maximize profit. It's almost like they are predators pushing the limits of what they can get away with, but when held to the fire, they will and can produce great things.

Anyway, that is a bit off topic and a whole careers worth of discussion.....but does come back to the "You get what you pay for"....most of the time.

Every once in a while a "name brand" will make a mistake and slap their name on something they aren't controlling. For instance I bought a Sharp TV on black Friday. Piece of junk. It worked, but the picture quality was terrible. The old LCD fluorescent backlit Samsung I was replacing looked way better. Anyway, after some research I found out it was "Licensed by Sharp", Made in China, For Best Buy, and even had Best Buy on the manufacturers sticker in the Back........not a real Sharp product! They just sold their name and let them put it on there! I have a Real Sharp Aquos Quattron and it looks fantastic". But still. "I got what I paid for"....$400 for a Sharp 50" LED TV...what a joke. I had to take it back and buy a $700+ TV so I could get something that was actually good. Of course most people would have been happy campers with it had they not known the difference or had a quality TV to compare to, or more money to spend.
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^ I'm still thinking what ASUS monitor Psychohack talks about? This would be my 2nd question, the first question was directly asked to him... thinking.gif

I bought the ASUS PB278Q. It took me days and a lot of reading and research to decide though. Most of the reviews on it are very good. I think there are over 200 reviews on amazon and you can find others. I also found out people were able to overclock them some so your not stuck with 60Hz.

Also, I had to go to Micro Center for something else and they got 3 of the ASUS in stock. They had none the week before, and they had the cheapest price I could find anywhere ($499). Had this not been the case I may have ordered the Korean monitor and rolled the dice. It was not an easy choice, but the whole "30 days return for any reason" and "have it now" pretty much made me decide was worth buying and trying. I could simply drive it over there to return it if I wasn't satisfied for ANY reason. Being Christmas (buying lots of presents), real estate and personal property tax time, and just building a near $2k computer taken into account...spending the extra money was a factor heavily weighed.
So far I am happy with the decision....but the luxury is I still have until next month with nothing to lose if I want to return it. And I also have Asus warranty after that. You can also purchase microcenters warranties if your really paranoid smile.gif
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I bought the ASUS PB278Q. It took me days and a lot of reading and research to decide though. Most of the reviews on it are very good. I think there are over 200 reviews on amazon and you can find others. I also found out people were able to overclock them some so your not stuck with 60Hz.

Also, I had to go to Micro Center for something else and they got 3 of the ASUS in stock. They had none the week before, and they had the cheapest price I could find anywhere ($499). Had this not been the case I may have ordered the Korean monitor and rolled the dice. It was not an easy choice, but the whole "30 days return for any reason" and "have it now" pretty much made me decide was worth buying and trying. I could simply drive it over there to return it if I wasn't satisfied for ANY reason. Being Christmas (buying lots of presents), real estate and personal property tax time, and just building a near $2k computer taken into account...spending the extra money was a factor heavily weighed.
So far I am happy with the decision....but the luxury is I still have until next month with nothing to lose if I want to return it. And I also have Asus warranty after that. You can also purchase microcenters warranties if your really paranoid smile.gif

Good decision. thumb.gif If i have the chance i will do the same but my funds are limited. biggrin.gif
    
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So if I want to get a real glossy panel now, there's almost no chance anymore? I know there are some users who got glossy behind the tempered glass, but from reading here it seems chances are slim.
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