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the 290 is definitely a better buy at MSRP. The problem is getting it for MSRP right now


Ya its a good buy, but I want to be happey and have the card that can give me the best fps for a single card.. As I said the classy will do that, but will mantel make me wish I would of waited, along with the extra gig of vid ram. ya know what i mean.. I could surly do 2 290x's but i dont want the hassle of xfire or sli.. just want the easy and everything of 1 card.
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Ya its a good buy, but I want to be happey and have the card that can give me the best fps for a single card.. As I said the classy will do that, but will mantel make me wish I would of waited, along with the extra gig of vid ram. ya know what i mean.. I could surly do 2 290x's but i dont want the hassle of xfire or sli.. just want the easy and everything of 1 card.

if you are using 1 monitor 3/4gb of vram is a non issue. the 780ti is not a good bang/buck card at all compared to a 290. I'm very happy with my 290x but I only paid $500. my advise is wait a month or two till 290 is back at msrp and buy one. hope it unlocks to a 290x
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I had a 290x, Had to RMA it, did perform nice thought, that was before this new monitor i got... Also not going to wait another month, ill pay the extra to get it now... Iv been waiting about 2 years or more now for a video card... If i were to get a 290x it would be a dcii, or what i really want is a matrix or lightning, If i could wait it would be for a matrix..... But those are 2+ months away i take it..
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Would asus 770gtx 4gb version in 2x sli drive 3 X- Stars ok?

I am a bit late to this topic but 770s in SLI would likely get destroyed by triple 1440p in many games. The 4GB would be good BUT honestly due to the lack of speed compared to a 780ti having 3GB vs 4GB would be mute. You may have slightly higher minimum FPS during VRAM bottleneck spots(per my post below). One thing is for sure, is that overclocking would be a bit pointless sense you would likely very rarely get over 60FPS. See my post below regarding 780ti research with 1440pX3

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The GTX780ti is the fastest GPU period right now but the problem isn't speed it is VRAM. With one 1440p monitor it is recommended to have 2GB+ of VRAM, having three you will need 6GB+ to support the pixel space and not get bottlenecked. Now that doesn't mean it won't work and work well in some situations, it just means certain games with huge texture sizes will get bottlenecked. One good example is Skyrim, i have a GTX780ti and when playing skyrim on my Qnix i have seen the VRAM get to about 2.4GB. Now that is with one screen so if you triple that you are going to be getting cut short with on;ly having 3GB total usable VRAM.

Now for testing purposes i have setup my crossover, Qnix and Dell(1440p) in surround to benchmark(and borrowed a second and third GTX780ti). Needless to say using one card got destroyed in many modern games, however older games like shadowrun, Dead space 1, tomb raider anv. all were within playable FPS(around and just over 30-45) with some mainly texture or VRAM intensive settings off(AA, object detail, texture detail).

With two cards many games like BF4, Skyrim, and crysis did get a good deal better in FPS but there was a catch. At all points in the game there was always parts were i would get a BIG drop in FPS, like turning a corner and getting view of a very large area with a lot of textures visible. I know this happens to a certain extent anyway but this was different and the change was excessive. Like in Skyrim when in a cave i could get as high as 80FPS but when leaving the cave and going into open space(or "skyrim") i would drop to 20-30FPS. Battlefields results and crysis(3) were very similar. Older games ran perfectly fine on two cards, i think the somewhat raided setup of the VRAM gave it just enough to handle older textures fast enough.

With three cards the FPS increased in older games again but it was a lot less predominant. Only gaining about 25-30% in overall frames. There was also several spots that the frame were less than with 2 cards. Newer games were even worse. The increase was apparent in certain parts of the games that were very confined(skyrim cave) but any open view areas were just about the same as having two cards. Areas that i dropped to 25FPS with two cards dropped to 28-30FPS with 3.

Now one thing that made a big difference in these bottleneck points was dropping any setting that was heavily reliant on VRAM. Like in Skyrim turning texture size all the way down and turning view distance all the way down made a huge difference being outdoors. Battlefield didn't get much better in most areas but there was a difference(i think BF4 is just buggy anyway). The most convincing evidence that this is a VRAM bottleneck is that these settings changes only effected the lowest FPS and not so much the average.

So bottom line triple monitoring these with two GTX780ti's would be potentially viable if your expecting to turn a few settings down(related to VRAM use) and get no better than 60FPS(which would make overclocking a little mute). Really in this situation it may be more viable for a Titan or if a 6GB variant of the GTX780ti(higher than 6GB would be best but options are limited). VRAM overclocks also seemed to help more than what i would usually expect(10FPS from a mere 100mhz). Lastly if you do run portrait surround with 1440p monitors i highly recommend debezeling due to the thick bezel size.
This may be unrelated but i run my GTX780ti at 1241mhz and run my Qnix at 144hz while gaming in first person shooters(120hz in everything else). So if the issue was with the Qnix shouldn't it be constant between cards? Or could this be an issue with the Qnix combined with AMD cards. I also ran the Qnix at at least 120hz with a GTX 460, 570(SLI), 760, 770(SLI), 780ti. I did notice a higher potential refresh overclock with single card solutions and noticed there was a slight trade off in overclock between the monitor and VRAM(meaning with certain VRAM overclocks would limit monitor overclocks but nothing related to the GPU clocks).
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post #11875 of 25891
Would I be able to run 2 monitors with the sli asus 770 gtx 4gb
post #11876 of 25891
Hey guys - quick question that I didn't see addressed in the FAQ by OP.

I have an early 2008 macbook pro with an 8600M GT and I'm curious to see if anyone thinks I will have issues running one of the basic Qnix/X-Star monitors.

Being an older MBP, it actually has dual DVI out so I don't see the actual connection being a problem at all. I do not intend to use this for gaming - I have no intention of OCing whatsoever. It will be strictly used for graphic design and coding. A lot of the ebay listings for these monitors say not to use them with macs or laptops which seems like a bit of a blanket statement to cover their ass from people that don't know the difference between a VGA port and a DVI port.
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Hey guys - quick question that I didn't see addressed in the FAQ by OP.

I have an early 2008 macbook pro with an 8600M GT and I'm curious to see if anyone thinks I will have issues running one of the basic Qnix/X-Star monitors.

Being an older MBP, it actually has dual DVI out so I don't see the actual connection being a problem at all. I do not intend to use this for gaming - I have no intention of OCing whatsoever. It will be strictly used for graphic design and coding. A lot of the ebay listings for these monitors say not to use them with macs or laptops which seems like a bit of a blanket statement to cover their ass from people that don't know the difference between a VGA port and a DVI port.

Its says its Dual Link DVI so i dont see why it would not work. I was even able to run my Dell U2711 @ 1440p 50Hz via HDMI with Nvidia Custom Resolutions.
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post #11878 of 25891
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Its says its Dual Link DVI so i dont see why it would not work. I was even able to run my Dell U2711 @ 1440p 50Hz via HDMI with Nvidia Custom Resolutions.

Appreciate that! Are you in Toronto, Canada or California?
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Appreciate that! Are you in Toronto, Canada or California?

Canada.
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Canada.

Excellent. I'm in Waterloo. Any advice re: brokerage + duty on these monitors coming into Canada?
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