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Believe all you want. There are hundreds of examples of non-"perfect pixel" monitors being "perfect pixel" and I've given at least a half-dozen examples of "perfect pixel" monitors being nothing of the sort. That is, I believe, evidence enough that "perfect pixel" is stupid. Why pay extra for perfect pixel when non-perfect pixel monitors are cheaper, have a very similar rate of getting no pixel defects, and have a better track record?

There's another argument that actual posits that perfect pixel monitors are actually worse panels - but that is predicated on the monitors using A- (panels with a known defect). I'm not using that, because that would be rank speculation.

Evidence exists in abundance that non-perfect pixel monitors are free from pixel defects the majority of the time. Pixel defects are not common.
Enough evidence exists that perfect pixel monitors can also be subject to pixel defects, and that it is not as rare as might be expected. Pixel defects are not impossible.
Anecdotal experiences are many where getting a "perfect pixel" monitor that is defective replaced is annoying, long and arduous (and occasionally, outright scammy).
Conclusion - perfect pixel is stupid.

You conclusion that perfect pixel is stupid....not mine and i respect your right to hold that belief...however my past experience at buying pixel perfect has proved otherwise.. and i also believe that for one "Excellentcastle" does indeed check for dead pixels at which point he places a red stickers on the box saying "0 dead pixels" ...i also believe this because i do not believe Excellentcastle wants to keep paying for return shipment and then having to pay yet again for a replacement shipping...this would be economical suicide to him and many other sellers as the system in place does not allow them to "get away with this" ..And it is expressly why the UK government created the "Trade description act" and any company which wants to trade in the UK such as Ebay UK is Obliged abide by the Law.

It is this very system that is in place that allows to believe in pixel perfect and therefore allows me to send back countless amounts of monitors to any seller that would like to send me a NON a perfect pixel monitor if i paid for a pixel perfect monitor...and i would not lose one penny all i would experience is inconvenience to myself but!.. i would be 100% confident that my next monitor from that seller would be perfect ...unless of coarse that seller would like to commit economical suicide..which would be his choice...however i do not believe he would chose that path.
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Lawson, do you happen to know of a provider I should buy with the Perfect Pixel? I'm trying to obtain one that overclocks to the 120hz and has as many minimal defects as possible. thumb.gif

I believe that if you buy an Ultimate perfect pixel monitor from Excellentcastle that you will indeed receive a pixel perfect monitor from him...however there is no guarantee from any seller as to the severity of any BLB...they simply can not guarantee this ....also it is the same case with overclocking....its a lottery....however the last few buyers on this thread that have paid for Ultimate perfect pixel have indeed received from Excellentcastle pixel perfect monitors and have been able to overclock to 120hz.
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Lets not forget, perfect pixel means different things with different sellers, so its just a kind of wording. Once again, you can get a guaranteed zero one, but you pay around $400. The others listing perfect pixel even say how many they consider perfect, you have to read their terms and decide for yourself.
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You conclusion that perfect pixel is stupid....not mine and i respect your right to hold that belief...however my past experience at buying pixel perfect has proved otherwise.. and i also believe that for one "Excellentcastle" does indeed check for dead pixels at which point he places a red stickers on the box saying "0 dead pixels" ...i also believe this because i do not believe Excellentcastle wants to keep paying for return shipment and then having to pay yet again for a replacement shipping...this would be economical suicide to him and many other sellers as the system in place does not allow them to "get away with this" ..And it is expressly why the UK government created the "Trade description act" and any company which wants to trade in the UK such as Ebay UK is Obliged abide by the Law.
You have ONE experience with perfect pixel. Let me tell you about my two experiences with two non-perfect pixel monitors - both without bright pixel defects. Does my experience outweigh yours? What does the fact that I got 2 "perfect pixel" monitors (without buying perfect pixel) tell you? Nothing, you might say - but the same could be said of your experience. Just because you had a good experience means little. You got lucky, and weren't burned like some other perfect pixel buyers.
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It is this very system that is in place that allows to believe in pixel perfect and therefore allows me to send back countless amounts of monitors to any seller that would like to send me a NON a perfect pixel monitor if i paid for a pixel perfect monitor...and i would not lose one penny all i would experience is inconvenience to myself but!.. i would be 100% confident that my next monitor from that seller would be perfect ...unless of coarse that seller would like to commit economical suicide..which would be his choice...however i do not believe he would chose that path.
If the rate of "perfect pixel" monitors is high enough, he definitely can indeed get away with it. And from the statistics of the monitors of people on this very forum have gathered, the rate of pixel defects is probably low enough that a seller can do precisely what you describe, and not commit economic suicide. If the rate of defective pixels was above a certain level, say, 25% (I'm pulling this number out of thin air), then yes, you have a point. But generally speaking, the rate of defective pixels (as covered by "perfect pixel") has been low - one early poll with over 200 data points had it running at around 12-13% pixel issues - 1 in 8 panels had a defective pixel. If you could charge $20 more per panel, you'd cover your perfect pixel return shipping costs. And still make a profit. Notwithstanding those sellers who do scam perfect pixel, by offering a refund of the perfect pixel premium if a pixel defect is found (utterly stupid, dumbest, scammiest version of pixel perfect ever; avoid these sellers like the plague; red-cap did this for a while)

Edit:

Just went through the club - there are 379 members in the Qnix club. Of the club, 43 members received a monitor with stuck pixels that would be covered by perfect pixel. A total of 69 monitors with some kind of pixel defect. Thus, we have an overall rate of about 11.3% that would be covered by perfect pixel, if they were all perfect pixel monitors. Of the perfect pixel monitors, we have 18 registered as perfect pixel; 2 of them had a stuck pixel, and one of them had a dead pixel.
Edited by kevinsbane - 3/3/14 at 11:24am
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Hmm, I think I have no luck with my Qnix QX2710. I tried to overclock it to 96 Hz and 120 Hz, and it works, but then the colours on the upper-right corner of the screen are less bright. Like there is less backlight over there. I don't have this issue when I'm on 60 Hz. Is this normal or can I fix it?
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Hmm, I think I have no luck with my Qnix QX2710. I tried to overclock it to 96 Hz and 120 Hz, and it works, but then the colours on the upper-right corner of the screen are less bright. Like there is less backlight over there. I don't have this issue when I'm on 60 Hz. Is this normal or can I fix it?
It's normal - when the Qnix/X-star are overclocked, they lose brightness and their uniformity will go out the window. You can mitigate (but not eliminate) this by fiddling with your pixel timing settings, to reduce your pixel clock as much as possible.
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Thanks!

Where can I play with the pixel timing settings?

Another question, am I setting the refresh rate at the correct way? I RMB on desktop, then click ''screen resolutionn'', then advanced settings, then monitor tab and the I select 120 Hz. Is this the right way or should I do this in Catalyst Control Center?
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Try the first post - there's a section on overclocking. Unfortunately, I don't have any timings to give you to try, but there are a few in this thread. You should use the Custom Resolution Utilities in the OP. http://www.overclock.net/t/1384767/official-the-korean-pls-monitor-club-qnix-x-star/0_50# It will make your overclock "stick" in games and full screen modes.
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I have to be honest, the way the ebay sellers describe the monitors, I was under the impression they were testing the monitors themselves.
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You have ONE experience with perfect pixel. Let me tell you about my two experiences with two non-perfect pixel monitors - both without bright pixel defects. Does my experience outweigh yours? What does the fact that I got 2 "perfect pixel" monitors (without buying perfect pixel) tell you? Nothing, you might say - but the same could be said of your experience. Just because you had a good experience means little. You got lucky, and weren't burned like some other perfect pixel buyers.
If the rate of "perfect pixel" monitors is high enough, he definitely can indeed get away with it. And from the statistics of the monitors of people on this very forum have gathered, the rate of pixel defects is probably low enough that a seller can do precisely what you describe, and not commit economic suicide. If the rate of defective pixels was above a certain level, say, 25% (I'm pulling this number out of thin air), then yes, you have a point. But generally speaking, the rate of defective pixels (as covered by "perfect pixel") has been low - one early poll with over 200 data points had it running at around 12-13% pixel issues - 1 in 8 panels had a defective pixel. If you could charge $20 more per panel, you'd cover your perfect pixel return shipping costs. And still make a profit. Notwithstanding those sellers who do scam perfect pixel, by offering a refund of the perfect pixel premium if a pixel defect is found (utterly stupid, dumbest, scammiest version of pixel perfect ever; avoid these sellers like the plague; red-cap did this for a while)

Edit:

Just went through the club - there are 379 members in the Qnix club. Of the club, 43 members received a monitor with stuck pixels that would be covered by perfect pixel. A total of 69 monitors with some kind of pixel defect. Thus, we have an overall rate of about 11.3% that would be covered by perfect pixel, if they were all perfect pixel monitors. Of the perfect pixel monitors, we have 19 registered as perfect pixel; 2 of them had a stuck pixel, and one of them had a dead pixel.

Mate i have said my bit and i have pointed out why i would buy and continue to advised other members to buy pixel perfect monitors... also as i have said the last few buyers from this thread that have bought Ultimate pixel perfect monitors from Excellentcastle have indeed received pixel perfect monitors...there is a system that is in place that guarantees that i will get if not the first time round a pixel perfect monitor...i have explained how the system works and i have tested this system there really is no more to be said...if people want to pay for a perfect pixel monitor and they receive a non perfect pixel monitor and they want to keep it as opposed to returning it then that is there choice...

But it is a fact that if they want a perfect pixel monitor the will indeed get one...this has NOTHING to do with any seller or any argument that you can try and come back with!.. they will receive one because it is the Law....and NO seller is above the law and can alter or change Ebays legal obligations to there customers ..now this conversation is over...you can search all night long for examples of people who have received non pixel perfect monitors..i am not interested because the fact remains if you buy a pixel perfect monitor you will eventually receive one because its the Law...and i believe if bought from Excellentcastle it most likely will be the first monitor you receive...if you have no faith in your law or are willing to except anything less than a perfect pixel monitor if you have bought one than that is your choice ...because the FACT remains that the law demands that you will receive a perfect pixel monitor!
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