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I do have a few question thoughs, and I apologize if they have already been answered (I have not seen them answered but I'm sure they have been) I hate to be that guy who asks an obvious question that's probably been answered 100 times, but I can't find any answers to them.

I'm on an AMD R9 290 - I see pretty much everyone saying they use the nVidia Pixel Clock Patcher (with a custom setting of 120hz 2560x1440) and/or nVidia control panel

#1 Can I use these nVidia programs with an AMD card, or will I need to find and use different software?

#2 Can I run this QNIX monitor alongside my 1080p 24" G series Acer? (I ordered the dvi-d dual link only panel)

#3 Will a r9 290 be able to run 1440p with high settings and stay at a high FPS? It is one of the ones with an aftermarket cooler (Windforce 3x from gigabyte) and I have it OC'd to 1ghz at the time.

Thanks in advance guys
post #18512 of 25935
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Originally Posted by Wolvaras View Post

I've just received my Qnix 2710, and followed the OC guide (both Nvidia pixel clock as the CRU). But for some reason it just won't budge any further than 60FPS/Hz on the frame skipper test.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8632815/OC%20CRU.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8632815/OC%20desktop.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8632815/OC%20Nvidia.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8632815/OC%20website.png

Restarted multiple times already.

Any ideas?
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Originally Posted by Wolvaras View Post

Actually, ingame it actually says it's at 96FPS. So what should I believe?

Alright. So right now it's only the test site that says I'm running at 60hz. Every game that can have different refresh rates list the ones that are available on the desktop, and those games always show higher than 60FPS. So, what gives?
Edited by Wolvaras - 5/16/14 at 1:10am
post #18513 of 25935
Ok so I was taking my monitor apart because I want to VESA mount it without the stand sticking out at the bottom and while I was doing this I accidentally pulled a cable and the individual wires came out of the connector.

Now that I've put the wires back in to the connector my display is quite dark even at full brightness, so does anybody know what type of cable it is and does anybody know what it's purpose is?

I have made up an album of the cable here http://m.imgur.com/a/ou6dJ it's the cable with one red wire and the rest are white.
post #18514 of 25935
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Originally Posted by stephenwileyrn View Post

I do have a few question thoughs, and I apologize if they have already been answered (I have not seen them answered but I'm sure they have been) I hate to be that guy who asks an obvious question that's probably been answered 100 times, but I can't find any answers to them.

I'm on an AMD R9 290 - I see pretty much everyone saying they use the nVidia Pixel Clock Patcher (with a custom setting of 120hz 2560x1440) and/or nVidia control panel

#1 Can I use these nVidia programs with an AMD card, or will I need to find and use different software?

#2 Can I run this QNIX monitor alongside my 1080p 24" G series Acer? (I ordered the dvi-d dual link only panel)

#3 Will a r9 290 be able to run 1440p with high settings and stay at a high FPS? It is one of the ones with an aftermarket cooler (Windforce 3x from gigabyte) and I have it OC'd to 1ghz at the time.

Thanks in advance guys

#1- you will install amd catalyst driver than run the AMD pixel patcher located here pixel patcher Than you will reboot and use CRU to set your resolution (see lawsons guide) then reboot -CRU is located here : CRU

It is literally a two step process and easy as can be, nothing to be scared of doing

#2 I believe you can but I dont believe you can overclock at the same time, I may be wrong though. lawson would probably know, he knows everything about these lol.

#3 1440p will probably require lowing a couple things like AA or such to hit the high fps like 100-120fps with just one 290.

pretty much any question you have will be answered here( http://www.monitortests.com/forum/Forum-Monitors ), toastyX is the guy who made all the stuff to get this working, so if you have a question ask him or ask lawson67(dude is very helpful)
Edited by the9quad - 5/16/14 at 8:37am
post #18515 of 25935
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Originally Posted by blitzed604 View Post

Second question is how do i use color sustainer? after i reboot my computer i open color sustainer and click on "generic pnp" then 2560x1440 resolution then 2560x1440x32@120hz i then checkmark the associate buttton and click on browse and navigate to lawson color profile "Native dispcal 120hz 200cdm.icm and hit the associate button and the associate button font turns green. im assuming the color profile has changed and kicked in at this point, what happens when i reboot my computer do i have to go into color sustainer and do it again? because the associate button is not there anymore after i reboot, but the associate checkmark is there so im assuming i did it right....(please see screen shot below showing associate button not there after reboot)
http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=4813132&postcount=104

Also, there is a README.docx file that I provide with every single build of Color Sustainer. Did you read it?

From the readme:
Quote:
Originally Posted by README 
Run on Startup
If either setting is / both settings are checked within "Run on Startup", the application will run on startup. If both settings are not checked, the application will not run on startup.
Start Automatically: Starts the process of detection and color profile application (mentioned below) automatically with the application on startup
Minimize to Tray: Keeps the application minimized to tray on startup

Detection and Color Profile Application
Press File-->Start to start the process of detecting changes in displays and display modes and applying the associated color profiles for their respective display modes.

They are below each other.
Quote:
Now once i switch from 120hz preset to 60hz preset to i need to change the color profile thing ins color sustainer again?
The whole point of the application is that it automatically switches color profiles as you switch refresh rates.
Edited by yasamoka - 5/16/14 at 9:16am
post #18516 of 25935
Does anyone else get a flicker on the new NVIDIA beta drivers, like a quick split second flicker every 10-15 seconds? it's fine on the non-beta drivers..
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Need some help with a few questions regarding OC the monitor!

I'm using the Qnix 2710 matte monitor and until recently have only been using it with a single GTX 780. I just installed another 780 though 2 days ago. Up until then I wasn't using the full patch, and even with the new SLI setup I still don't think I need to use the full patch if I'm not going over the 400mhz pixel clock limit, AND Toasty also mentioned Titan and 780 users wouldn't need the full patch for SLI. Is that true? So far I've only been able to get my Qnix to 93 hz, anything higher than that some weird faint discoloration appears on the screen (its like a vertical band but very patchy).

#1. 93hz is around 374mhz on the pixel clock which is still below 400, so should i just stick with the partial patch or go with the full?

#2. What's the difference in the CRU app provided here, from the one provided by windows? (right click desktop, screen resolution, advanced settings, create custom resolution)

#3. For awhile I couldn't get the refresh rate created in CRU to show up in my control panel resolutions, presumably due to GeForce Experience being installed. Instead of uninstalling GeForce Exp or importing that blank.dat file he mentioned, I found a tool in EVGA Precision X that lets you create a custom refresh rate by adjusting the Pixel Clock via a slider. I just raised it to 93 hz and applied the setting and voila! It shows up in nvidia control panel and the windows resolution menu, as well as in game. The refresh rate tester website he provided also verified the screen was running at 93 hz. Has anyone else used this instead of the CRU? Is it legit?

#4. Is there anything I can do to get it higher than 93 hz without that weird discoloration? I was just wondering if I did use the CRU app and maybe adjusted the values in there (which I have no idea at all what they mean, e.g. front porch, back porch, blanking, etc) if it would allow a successful higher refresh rate. And if I do use the CRU app do I need to match the pixel clock value in there with the pixel clock slider bar in Precision X? Will one override the other?

Thanks for any help. Its just all a bit complicated for my brain wha-smiley.png
post #18518 of 25935
Quote:
Originally Posted by dawnoftheh3ro View Post

Need some help with a few questions regarding OC the monitor!

I'm using the Qnix 2710 matte monitor and until recently have only been using it with a single GTX 780. I just installed another 780 though 2 days ago. Up until then I wasn't using the full patch, and even with the new SLI setup I still don't think I need to use the full patch if I'm not going over the 400mhz pixel clock limit, AND Toasty also mentioned Titan and 780 users wouldn't need the full patch for SLI. Is that true? So far I've only been able to get my Qnix to 93 hz, anything higher than that some weird faint discoloration appears on the screen (its like a vertical band but very patchy).

#1. 93hz is around 374mhz on the pixel clock which is still below 400, so should i just stick with the partial patch or go with the full?

#2. What's the difference in the CRU app provided here, from the one provided by windows? (right click desktop, screen resolution, advanced settings, create custom resolution)

#3. For awhile I couldn't get the refresh rate created in CRU to show up in my control panel resolutions, presumably due to GeForce Experience being installed. Instead of uninstalling GeForce Exp or importing that blank.dat file he mentioned, I found a tool in EVGA Precision X that lets you create a custom refresh rate by adjusting the Pixel Clock via a slider. I just raised it to 93 hz and applied the setting and voila! It shows up in nvidia control panel and the windows resolution menu, as well as in game. The refresh rate tester website he provided also verified the screen was running at 93 hz. Has anyone else used this instead of the CRU? Is it legit?

#4. Is there anything I can do to get it higher than 93 hz without that weird discoloration? I was just wondering if I did use the CRU app and maybe adjusted the values in there (which I have no idea at all what they mean, e.g. front porch, back porch, blanking, etc) if it would allow a successful higher refresh rate. And if I do use the CRU app do I need to match the pixel clock value in there with the pixel clock slider bar in Precision X? Will one override the other?

Thanks for any help. Its just all a bit complicated for my brain wha-smiley.png

1) Since you are now SLI (780's) I'd go with the Full Patch ... that's the reason we go SLI is for higher frame rates to hopefully match higher refresh rates like 96-120Hz ... right biggrin.gif

2) None, CRU is not needed for Nvidia setups, all custom refresh rates are done through the NVCP! KIS(S) wink.gif
Note: You can use the windows display app to double check your settings are being applied.

3) Don't use CRU or Evga's programs for custom refresh rates, it's simpler and more accurate through NVCP.
Note: I tried Precision X for awhile but the settings were always a bit "off" from what Windows/NVCP were reporting rolleyes.gif

4) For more info check out my posts [HERE] and my referrals to Toasty's comments on weather the Full Patch is needed for SLI780GTX's [HERE] bottom/end of my post. No one I know of yet has confirmed Nvidia SLI works without the Full Patch for higher OC's?

Also realize most people will need to tighten their timings for 110Hz+ , but see how far you can get with stock timing's 1st, so you don't get the annoying effect of your gpu ram not properly downclocking @ the desktop with "most" tightened timings!
To get to 120Hz you may have to tighten them a bit as in the example below ... thumb.gif


TY Lawson

Or check out Lawson's new timing's [HERE] for a 110Hz WITH proper gpu ram downclocking @ desktop thumb.gif

Check back let us know how it worked out wink.gif
Edited by TomcatV - 5/16/14 at 1:17pm
 
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I was wondering when you might revert to 110Hz 24/7 wink.gif ... I have done the same, it's the best of both worlds, Desktop work apps --> gaming. I can't tell the difference between 110Hz and 120Hz and it seems only prudent for longevity keeping the pixel clock within spec! Especially after reading the only failures guys are having months down the road are from running flat out @120hz with or without tightened timings. I like my monitor to much and until someone convinces me it's OK to run a 483 pixel clock @120Hz even with my gpu ram properly downclocking ... or until I get some new Maxwells to push 120fps all the time ... I'll pass for now wink.gif

Hey tomcat yep i just leave it set at 110hz 24/7 now due to the fact i can downclock the ram using my 110hz timings and that i cant tell the difference between 110hz and 120hz....Once you get up that high its very hard to tell any difference at all!... And my gaming is just as fluid at 110hz as it is at 120hz....I still have my 120hz preset which is running only a pixel clock of 459mhz and i do not believe this would stress the display controller chip at all to leave at this 24/7...However the inability to down clock the ram with these timings and the fact i cant tell the difference between 110hz and 120hz and the fact that i have the pixel clock running at a near perfect 453mhz with those 110hz timings is the decision maker and therefore i see not point in 120hz! thumb.gif

Quote:
Originally Posted by enkur View Post

Lawson.. thank you so much for the 110Hz settings. I used them and my SLI setup properly downclocks great.

Thank you again.

cheers.

No problem at all and glad that i helped you mate!....Enjoy your monitor


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Originally Posted by fredocini View Post

thank you so much for your response lawson! this works perfectly. will it be safe to run this setting 24/7? and will it affect any sort of image quality?

No problem at all mate!...And again enjoy your new monitor thumb.gif

Oh and BTW yes you will be totally fine running 110hz with those timings 24/7 !...With a pixel clock of 453mhz i see no problem at all!....And yes as for the image quality the gamma will shift higher at 110hz meaning your screen will appear darker!...However i am using my 120hz ICC profile which looks fine at 110hz!.. It will also totally correct the higher gamma shift seen at this higher refresh rate!....I calibrated that ICC profile at a brightness of 200cd/m which is about 17-18 clicks up on BRI+ button from a black screen...I have put a link to it below thumb.gif

Nativedispcal120hz96hz200cdm.zip 26k .zip file
Edited by lawson67 - 5/16/14 at 3:38pm
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http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=4813132&postcount=104

Also, there is a README.docx file that I provide with every single build of Color Sustainer. Did you read it?

From the readme:
They are below each other.
The whole point of the application is that it automatically switches color profiles as you switch refresh rates.

Thanks i must have missed that read me file but the link you gave got me sorted out i appreciate it.

The only other questions i have left is
1.)am i using the right color profile its labelled "Native dispcal 120hz 200cdm.icm" i believe from "lawson", people on the forums have mentioned a certain number of brightness clicks but i couldnt find how many times to hit the brightness+ button from an absolute dim to get the best quality.

2.) do i need a driver for my monitor if i have a r9 290x or is that only needed for nvidia and im mostly going to be playing battlefield 4 do i still need the color profile set and CCC set to 120hz? or do i need to just select 2560x1440 120hz in video settings of the game and not change between 60 and 120hz in CCC.

3.)Do these screen shots look correct? http://imgur.com/yMvyD5R http://i.imgur.com/0ujmbwt.jpg

4.)If i want to run my monitor at 110hz what numbers and settings do i need to change in CRU? is it the same as others have posted even though they are using nvidia and the nvidia software? With those settings what is the best color profile to use?

Thanks for all your help and i will definitely donate once i get some money transferred in my paypal thumb.gif
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