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I finally decided to look into my back light bleed problem and it looks like the metal frame in front of the screen on the bottom left portion is bending the screen.

Has anyone here dealt with bending back the frame to fix the bleeding issues?
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I wasn't getting defensive i was simply explaining myself. I am seeing if i can improve quality of course. Supersampling can give us better quality all around and not just in games. I always did this with my older monitors and it gives a fake sense of a higher PPI then what the monitor really is. It is obviously not as good as having actual resolution but it does very much help. With the Qnix already being 2560x1440 and being able to overclock to double its own refresh having a pixel clock of 500mhz+ i was thinking you could really supersample it. Plus i have seen myself and read over many review it is better in many was than the sort of software aliasing we normally use in games. I can say for sure it works wonders with TVs.
Supersampling is amazing but you really won't notice a big difference since we are at 3.6 million pixels already. Plus SS uses so much of your GPU it's not worth it.. Do you hae a Amd gpu?
 
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Supersampling is amazing but you really won't notice a big difference since we are at 3.6 million pixels already. Plus SS uses so much of your GPU it's not worth it.. Do you hae a Amd gpu?

I am pretty sure there would be a BIG difference. I have used this many times on monitor that are 1080p at 21.5" which makes the PPI damn close to the Qnix and it made it look way better. Think about it the Qnix is only about 109PPI and my Galaxy s2 phone is more than double that. There is definitely room for improvement and improvement that will be visibly better. Quite frankly this is an awesome monitor but the pixel density is not the best by far. That is why i am doing a triple monitor side project with laptop panels that are 1080p at 11.6" which makes it 226PPI more than double the Qnix. Anyone that has seen an ultrabook or has compared smartphone screens to PC monitors will be able to speak towards this. With two GTX570s i am not worried about GPU usage and i plane on upgrading soon.
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It's cause all the extra bandwidth you are using to keep 100 plus frames.. Drop your monitor back to 60 and see if it goes back to idle..

Same at 60. I don't think the desktop at 103 is pulling so much my card wouldn't back the frequency off a tad. Without the nvidia patch, 60 will be at around 150mhz off the 560TI @ idle. I know OC'ing the monitor will make the GPU work harder, I just can't imagine it needs full clocks speeds 100% of the time.

Are others here who use nvidia cards experiencing the same thing?
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I am pretty sure there would be a BIG difference. I have used this many times on monitor that are 1080p at 21.5" which makes the PPI damn close to the Qnix and it made it look way better. Think about it the Qnix is only about 109PPI and my Galaxy s2 phone is more than double that. There is definitely room for improvement and improvement that will be visibly better. Quite frankly this is an awesome monitor but the pixel density is not the best by far. That is why i am doing a triple monitor side project with laptop panels that are 1080p at 11.6" which makes it 226PPI more than double the Qnix. Anyone that has seen an ultrabook or has compared smartphone screens to PC monitors will be able to speak towards this. With two GTX570s i am not worried about GPU usage and i plane on upgrading soon.
Smaller screens always have higher ppi.. My gs4 has like 426 or something but tats because the have to cram 1080p on a 5in screen.. The bigger the screen the higher the pixel pitch.. As all 1440p monitors have the same pixel pitch.. And of course Supersampling makes 1080p look better because the pixels are so big it just smooths them out.. It's not adding more ppi lol.. All it does is a super AA technique. On 1080p you need AA but on 1440p you really don't need it as there are way more pixels..Just think of it like this. MY 55IN 1080P TV has the same amount of pixels as my 5in gs4.lol so of course the phone will have to cram way more ppi to get the same amount of pixels..
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I am pretty sure there would be a BIG difference. I have used this many times on monitor that are 1080p at 21.5" which makes the PPI damn close to the Qnix and it made it look way better. Think about it the Qnix is only about 109PPI and my Galaxy s2 phone is more than double that. There is definitely room for improvement and improvement that will be visibly better. Quite frankly this is an awesome monitor but the pixel density is not the best by far. That is why i am doing a triple monitor side project with laptop panels that are 1080p at 11.6" which makes it 226PPI more than double the Qnix. Anyone that has seen an ultrabook or has compared smartphone screens to PC monitors will be able to speak towards this. With two GTX570s i am not worried about GPU usage and i plane on upgrading soon.

I know what youre saying abotu pixel density, my phone is pushing 1080 at 5 inches and its pretty awesome. But pushing more onto this panel with all the pixels it has already I dunno. I have a 7990, and I still doubt its abilities at lets say, double the pixels. For comparison three qnix's in eyefinity is just playble, but not amazing.
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Well he says a "fake sense of adding PPI" but I think there has got to be some diminishing returns here on this display which already has higher density than a 1080P, for example. Keep testing though, for sure. And SSAA is definitely (and obviously) a superior way of anti-aliasing in games if you can afford the hit.
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Smaller screens always have higher ppi.. My gs4 has like 426 or something but tats because the have to cram 1080p on a 5in screen.. The bigger the screen the higher the pixel pitch.. As all 1440p monitors have the same pixel pitch.. And of course Supersampling makes 1080p look better because the pixels are so big it just smooths them out.. It's not adding more ppi lol.. All it does is a super AA technique. On 1080p you need AA but on 1440p you really don't need it as there are way more pixels..Just think of it like this. MY 55IN 1080P TV has the same amount of pixels as my 5in gs4.lol so of course the phone will have to cram way more ppi to get the same amount of pixels..

Yeah i am not sure we are on the same page yet(almost). PPI is relative to resolution and screen size. The size of the pixels are just about exactly the same on a 1080p monitor at 21.5" then it is on a 1440p monitor at 27". I have an ultrabook running a 1080p screen at 11.6" and the density and overall quality(other than 120hz) is BETTER than the Qnix. downsampling can somewhat help in this regard. I never said anything about it adding pixels in fact i very much tried to stay away from it as many people do have this delusion(why i said "fake"). The main reason certain people get confused and think it is actually creating more pixels are not completely out of their minds either because it overall looks like there is.

To kinda make this a bit more clear, take a monitor at 1080p with a screen size of 21.5" and set it right next to your Qnix and then move a window between them. You will notice that they are VERY close almost identical. Next apply downsamplinjg to the 1080p screen and compare(which i have done). The 1080p screen in terms of just pixel pitch will look better than the Qnix. As you already know anti-aliasing even at our 109PPI Qnix does make games look better(especially for those of us with very good sight) i am simply venturing into doing this for the whole PC experience which supersampling does.

And a 55" TV looks like absolute trash compared to a 5" screen at the same resolution(and period for that matter since the PPI is garbage). For this reason i could never go back to a large TV display they just look horribly blocky. I am really not sure what you are trying to say actually other than some very obvious comments you really tried to discredit my point with my point. Anyways anyone that has actually used SS will tell you it makes your monitor have a good deal better quality. You get a pretty close to the same improvement when lowering the ridiculously high DPI on cell phones(but better).

So if anyone else decides to try this let me know how it goes and ho you went about doing it since i am a bit stuck with getting it to work.
Edited by Spartan F8 - 6/6/13 at 2:57pm
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You ask for how people feel just so you can tell us we are wrong and be disrespect to us.. I would rather not deal with you as I have already had problems with you.. Thank you and have a great day
 
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You ask for how people feel just so you can tell us we are wrong and be disrespect to us.. I would rather not deal with you as I have already had problems with you.. Thank you and have a great day

Never said you were wrong and i did not impose any disrespect. If that is what you got from what i just said then i am sorry you mis-understood my post. Also the "problems" you have had was another simple mis-understanding(which has not happened with anyone else i have chatted with). if your "thank you and have a great day" post means your are done talking on the matter that is fine since you obviously do not have anything to contribute on this particular subject(also not an insult i myself have subjects that i would not be very helpful with to rolleyes.gif ). I would ask that you not post any more comments like this as it IS dis-respectful and referring to yourself as "us" is an isolating tactic.

Back to the matter at hand if anyone else has or is going to try SS or has done it in the past and can give me some advice it would be much appreciated. biggrin.gif
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