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post #2971 of 25862
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Originally Posted by bmancreations View Post

Does not happen only with SVP, though I think it is worse with it.

Then it could also be something wrong with your filters. i have not seen it as an issue yet with madvr settings but that too is always a possibility.
post #2972 of 25862
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Yea I think Artifacts is wrong. The haloing/ringing/shadow sounds like it could be what I am talking about. All that, oversharpening, sounds all about right, but could be wrong.

Assuming that is it. How do I fix it? I see this mostly in normal movies.

If it's in normal movies I'd assume it's just low bitrates. Unfortunately there are no easy solutions. Different movies, and likely different scenes within the movies, will require different post-processing filters to fix this. Your best bet would be to rip to higher quality, but otherwise I can't think of anything.

Edit: madvr does have an anti-ringing feature where you select your scaling algorithims. Note that this will take more GPU power.

With SVP, it has to guess where everything is moving from and to. The algorithims involved are complex but far from perfect, and could result in slightly more artifacting as a result. Again, there is no magic pill, you'll have to decide if the higher fps is worth the slightly worse IQ.
Oh, and if there is artifacting in the source, these algorithims would end up exaggerating it when interpolating - which could be why it is worse with SVP.
Edited by Moragg - 6/10/13 at 3:18pm
post #2973 of 25862
Interesting, I think it's more a filter.

Because I have my 1.2GB average TV shows that seem fine, then I got my 10 to 20GB variable much higher bitrate movies that can have this issue. I will take a look around. It's not annoying, its not that crazy, but still.
post #2974 of 25862
Just got my tracking from hulustar thumb.gif , hopefully I get it Wednesday or maybe even tomorrow
post #2975 of 25862
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Originally Posted by bmancreations View Post

Interesting, I think it's more a filter.

Because I have my 1.2GB average TV shows that seem fine, then I got my 10 to 20GB variable much higher bitrate movies that can have this issue. I will take a look around. It's not annoying, its not that crazy, but still.

Try watching whatever it is at it's native resolution - not fullscreen. When upscaling 1080p content to 1440p that is a factor of 4/3 - stretching every 3 pixels into 4 pixels, which could also cause problems. See if watching with MPC-HC using 1080p of your screen helps.
By the same reasoning, 720p content supposedly upscales much better, possibly to the point where it looks better than a 1080p source.

If you have timescapes 1440p, you could always see if that has artifacting. Yes would imply a filter problem, no a source problem.
Also check under madvr's "trade quality for performance" tab that none are selected, and when playing back a file right-click and go to filters. Make sure the only ffdshow filter used is the raw video filter.

Finally: smoothing can hide source arifacts, but there is a trade off with sharpness.

/end infodump
post #2976 of 25862
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Originally Posted by Moragg View Post

Try watching whatever it is at it's native resolution - not fullscreen. When upscaling 1080p content to 1440p that is a factor of 4/3 - stretching every 3 pixels into 4 pixels, which could also cause problems. See if watching with MPC-HC using 1080p of your screen helps.
By the same reasoning, 720p content supposedly upscales much better, possibly to the point where it looks better than a 1080p source.

If you have timescapes 1440p, you could always see if that has artifacting. Yes would imply a filter problem, no a source problem.
Also check under madvr's "trade quality for performance" tab that none are selected, and when playing back a file right-click and go to filters. Make sure the only ffdshow filter used is the raw video filter.

Finally: smoothing can hide source arifacts, but there is a trade off with sharpness.

/end infodump

What is timescapes, and where do I get it?
post #2977 of 25862
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What is timescapes, and where do I get it?


For the actual product
http://www.timescapes.org/products/default.aspx

Sample video(must watch in "original" resolution to get 1440p)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-sTIRw1Ghw

EDIT: Basically timescapes is a time video of extra fastr and extra slow content at extreme quality recording used for video software testing and editing. It is the most astoundingly quality video i have ever seen.
post #2978 of 25862
Thanks,

So I just watched a movie with SVP and it looks quite good. I changed some settings in madVR and the picture looks better, but it still happens. No biggy.

That SVP is for sure CPU intensive, I have a new 4770K Haswel and near the end of the film, big dance/party scene and it was skipping almost, only 5 seconds total out of the entire film, but interesting to note.
post #2979 of 25862
Yeah but was that due to CPU load for sure?
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post #2980 of 25862
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Yeah but was that due to CPU load for sure?

Well the entire movie played perfect, and the end was the most active part of the film, so I think so, I could try to play it again and see if it does it, and watch the CPU usage this time.

*edit, so it maxed out at 72%, so I guess it was just a bad part of the encoding.


**Moved back down to 96hz, things seem better. Could a better cable help it at 120hz?
Edited by bmancreations - 6/10/13 at 9:54pm
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