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Ok, I appreciate that and I'm not intending to be rude, but can you tell me specifically WHY it is safe? Like, "the LCD crystals are not affected because..." or something like that. I just keep hearing "It is safe" or "It is dangerous" but never an explanation specifically for why it is one or the other.
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Ok, I appreciate that and I'm not intending to be rude, but can you tell me specifically WHY it is safe? Like, "the LCD crystals are not affected because..." or something like that. I just keep hearing "It is safe" or "It is dangerous" but never an explanation specifically for why it is one or the other.

No I cannot. Please enlight us if you find a scientific explanation. I can only think of heat to be honest.
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I agree, and I'm very tempted to try and see what 90+ hz (hopefully)

well, basically your colors/gamma is gonna get a little more dim but your screen movement will feel smoother. The biggest change will be your mouse cursor, so any games that have screen movement benefit from that. I have a 120hz Benq monitor and even when these monitors are overclocked they feel different from the Benq TN panel. Ips/PLS feels a slower in comparison but its not big deal to me. The colors simple poop all over TN panels
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Ok, I appreciate that and I'm not intending to be rude, but can you tell me specifically WHY it is safe? Like, "the LCD crystals are not affected because..." or something like that. I just keep hearing "It is safe" or "It is dangerous" but never an explanation specifically for why it is one or the other.

no one can guarantee you safety with any overclocking. You can try it and if you thi k the benefits aren't worth the u inherit risk, you can throw it back to default settings.

there have been people who have had overclocked settings forover a year without any issues and that's all we really know
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no one can guarantee you safety with any overclocking. You can try it and if you thi k the benefits aren't worth the u inherit risk, you can throw it back to default settings.

there have been people who have had overclocked settings forover a year without any issues and that's all we really know



That is a good sign, but I still think that we have an idea of why ocing a CPU is relatively safe especially if voltage and temps are in check, and the same applies to GPU and ram.

But it just seems like no one really understands (from what I've read so far) why OCing a monitor is safe, or not, nor have I read any real explanation of what is happening when you OC a monitor and why or why not it is not going to affect it in some way.


I'm all for doing cutting edge experimentation and basing it on the best anecdotal evidence, but I also wouldn't mind seeing some information regarding exactly what is happening, why it is safe (according to Nvidia for example) or why it is not (according to other forum posts I've read).

I may try to call Nvidia if I have time to see if they can tell me anything.

I guess I'm being kind of protective because I really like my monitor, but I also find it a bit frustrating that no one actually knows technically what is going on here.
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Ok, I appreciate that and I'm not intending to be rude, but can you tell me specifically WHY it is safe? Like, "the LCD crystals are not affected because..." or something like that. I just keep hearing "It is safe" or "It is dangerous" but never an explanation specifically for why it is one or the other.

First off let me tell you that there are no reported long term issues behind doing this....yet. The general assumption for monitor overclocking is that it reduces life span but that is completely speculation. Now this would be your "safe" answer. The scientific one is. the LCD crystals are not affected because....they can do it already, many of these (and many other panels) show in there specifications they are compatible to 120hz but are locked to 85hz or lower. The reason why is because there is a lot of other equipment involved other than the panel as well namely the PCB and the controller board specifically. MANY panels could do more than 60hz and some can go as high as 144hz even but the PCB and controller make it impossible. Also the interface is lacking. DVI craps out just about completely at 500mhz data rate and many controller boards for input(especially multiport model) crap out even sooner. The PCB is another animal in itself. We have seen plenty of examples where someone gets the overlord PCB and BAM there panel does plenty over 60hz. There is something to understand here, this means the who monitor equation could do more than 60hz EXCEPT for the PCB.

So overall i guess a better question would be why are other panels not able to go higher than 60hz? And usually the answer won't be the panel but the other factors involved. I have an overlord PCB and to date have not had a panel IPS,PLS, or LCD that wasn't able to do over 60hz and usually over 75hz. So my advice here is look at the spec sheet for the panel specifically NOT the "monitor".

Hopefully this helps you and others wondering about this thumb.gif


PS: Got my 17" 1080p laptop panel that i cannibalized to 136hz as well using known overclockable equipment to connect it(overlord plus LVDS single port jobs from ebay manufacturer direct) smile.gif
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Nice, that is the kind of explanation I was looking for, thanks smile.gif

I guess I'll be trying it biggrin.gifredface.gif
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Hmm, well I tried overclocking it to 96hz and 110hz.

Here is what I noticed:


- A slight to moderate decrease in image quality, a darkening of the image and a loss of detail, and possibly some subtle glitchy behavior I couldn't quite describe


- A definite increase in smoothness, most appreciated in games (over movies) and was nice on the desktop as well. However, in movies especially it did look like things were "sped up" in a way that didn't necessarily look quite natural or correct.


Overall I liked the smoothness but not the perceived decrease in image quality or the sort of unnatural quality the image would take on at times.


For now I decided to go with 60hz. I'm actually a little surprised that some people would go to a lower image quality panel and resolution like 1080p just to get 120hz. I think the difference with 1440p and a better panel is huge compared to the difference with a faster pixel rate.
Edited by Robertdt - 9/2/13 at 6:23pm
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Hmm, well I tried overclocking it to 96hz and 110hz.

Here is what I noticed:


- A slight to moderate decrease in image quality, a darkening of the image and a loss of detail, and possibly some subtle glitchy behavior I couldn't quite describe


- A definite increase in smoothness, most appreciated in games (over movies) and was nice on the desktop as well. However, in movies especially it did look like things were "sped up" in a way that didn't necessarily look quite natural or correct.


Overall I liked the smoothness but not the perceived decrease in image quality or the sort of unnatural quality the image would take on at times.


For now I decided to go with 60hz. I'm actually a little surprised that some people would go to a lower image quality panel and resolution like 1080p just to get 120hz. I think the difference with 1440p and a better panel is huge compared to the difference with a faster pixel rate.

You won't see a single change in movies unless you install something called smooth video project and when you do, let me tell you, it's a huge difference.
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I realize that the semi-gloss finish does indeed suppress reflections and yet maintain an excellent level of clarity however, do any of you guys notice the slight loss of sharpness when looking at 12-13pt fonts on a contrasty background? Like a code editor? Is the difference in clarity important if I'll use the panels for reading and movie watching?
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