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post #6591 of 25888
Guys I just found this monitor and it is supposed to be overclockable to 125hz! http://www.ebay.com/itm/CROSSOVER-NEW-2730MD-LED-27-2560x1440-HDMI-1-4-LG-S-IPS-Overclockable-Monitor-/121051875167?pt=UK_Computing_ComputerComponents_Monitors&hash=item1c2f41075f

It also has HDMI and DVI-D outputs and still has 6ms. I think im gonna purchase this instead of Qnix just because the price is a lot less, they also have crossover monitor that costs 200dollars but I doubt that one is overclockable.
post #6592 of 25888
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Originally Posted by mudzi View Post

Guys I just found this monitor and it is supposed to be overclockable to 125hz! http://www.ebay.com/itm/CROSSOVER-NEW-2730MD-LED-27-2560x1440-HDMI-1-4-LG-S-IPS-Overclockable-Monitor-/121051875167?pt=UK_Computing_ComputerComponents_Monitors&hash=item1c2f41075f

It also has HDMI and DVI-D outputs and still has 6ms. I think im gonna purchase this instead of Qnix just because the price is a lot less, they also have crossover monitor that costs 200dollars but I doubt that one is overclockable.
Well...check this thread out.
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Originally Posted by HyperMatrix 
This monitor uses the same multi-input board as the Witech Multi Limited Edition, and a monitor pulled before release from Achieva Shimian, and one released by First Semiconductor (I have a prototype of it). The reason for that is the 125hz operation is bogus. The dvi controller board allows an input of up to 125hz. So your computer will say "Heya. I'm sending 125hz (or 130hz, in my case) to your monitor! All is well!". The monitor is saying "Oh sweet! A 125hz input! I can totally take that! Thank you!." Then it tries to pass it to the Timing controller attached to the LCD panel and the monitor is like "Hey...TCON...buddy, I got 125 of these frames for you. What??? What do you mean you can only accept 60 from me? Fine...I'll send you frame 1, 3, 5, 8, 10, 12, 15, etc...."

Basically...it frame skips. It will accept an input higher than 60hz. The OSD will tell you that it's outputting 125hz. But it only ever sends a 60hz signal to the LCD panel itself. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Edit: My comments are in regards to the 27" model. I don't have any info on the 30" monitor. It's very well possible that it hits 75hz.
Read more into it, be careful. Might have new models that can hit a native 125Hz, might not. If it comes like that out of the box, doubt it.
post #6593 of 25888
Ah okey :/ Then I might just go the cheaper version of Crossover without 125hz, I have seen some comparisons between crossover and Qnix and qnix has had a lot more backlight bleeding.

But damn, if that monitor would truly be 125hz it would be amazing.
post #6594 of 25888
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Originally Posted by mudzi View Post

Ah okey :/ Then I might just go the cheaper version of Crossover without 125hz, I have seen some comparisons between crossover and Qnix and qnix has had a lot more backlight bleeding.

But damn, if that monitor would truly be 125hz it would be amazing.
Backlight bleeding that can be fixed, that is. And not everyone has bad backlight bleeding in the first place. I'd venture to say that (almost?) everyone would benefit from the tape mod BLB fix since it seems to be a very common issue regarding the build of this monitor.

I don't think the cheaper CrossOver overclocks. If you're not interested in overclocking the monitor (aka running it at the higher refresh rates that it can natively do) then the CrossOver would work for you. However, PLS has a higher contrast ratio and there are differences between the two that you might be missing. Check out this review by our very own MenacingTuba for that.

Be warned that multi-input models of Korean monitors tend to have additional input latency, usually 1 frame vs. 5-7ms (check) @ 60Hz, IIRC.
post #6595 of 25888
I managed to fix my backlight bleed by straightening the metal frame. The frame was curving inwards and pressing against the panel causing severe BLB. I couldn't take a before and after pic of my monitor since my phone couldn't do it justice. So I found the closest image resembling the level or BLB my monitor gave off.

The bottom portion of the BLB highlighted in red was how bad my monitor looked. The black area in the middle was where the peak of the curved frame was pinching the panel.

Here are some pics of the curved metal frame.



Here's how it looked after I massaged and worked the frame back into its correct shape. It's still not perfect. You can kinda see how the bottom part of the frame marked in red doesn't sit flush against the desk like the top does.


The result. BLB is a fraction of what it once was. I couldn't get rid of all of it since straightening the frame by hand proved difficult, but I can live with it now. I didn't try the Tape Mod since I didn't have any electrical tape at my disposal. I don't believe it would've made a difference in my case though.
post #6596 of 25888
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Originally Posted by Nazrule View Post

They guarantee the pixels but leave out any detail about Back Light Bleed for the Pixel Perfect option. This is from their reg option:

"Backlight Bleeding Policy for IPS Panel or PLS Panel

We cannot guarantee for no backlight bleed.
It may have some backlight bleed exist due to panel characteristics.
Even Apple Cinema Display do not guarantee and responsible for backlight bleed
and they also do not take return for that reason.
For same reasons, we also do not guarantee its backlight bleed as return matter.
However, we do inspect each monitors for its condition and do not sell any monitors with excessive backlight bleed.
In normal user circumstance it doesn't have any problem, but can be shown in dark circumstance."

There isn't going to be a single person that is going to guarantee for BLB. These are B stock panels after all, there is going to be something wrong with them compared to A stock.

Minimal BLB is a lot less noticeable than dead pixels.
Edited by gl0ry - 9/7/13 at 5:52am
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post #6597 of 25888
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Originally Posted by gl0ry View Post

There isn't going to be a single person that is going to guarantee for BLB. These are B stock panels after all, there is going to be something wrong with them compared to A stock.

Minimal BLB is a lot less noticeable than dead pixels.

These are A or A- panels not B rated panels. I guess metaphorically you could say the "A" stock is in the store where the "B" stock is on korean ebay sellers page but i do see people who know panel binning terminology and taking it literally which would end up being mis-information. BLB can be fixed and it is no harder than fixing a screen door by dis-assembly. Not only that we have videos spelling it out and dozens of posts that spell it out for people. This is almost just as predominant in some main stream monitors(Asus). This is something people should be well read on and expecting when purchasing a korean panel. Some get really lucky most don't FIX IT!
post #6598 of 25888
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Originally Posted by tomKPZ View Post

Rant coming.

I ordered an X-star from dream-seller on eBay on the 18th. It didn't ship until the 28th. However, when he did ship it, he used economy mail despite clearly stating "FREE EXPRESS SHIPPING" on the eBay listing. It finally arrived on the 3rd, in its stock box (no packaging or anything). The had a large hole in it, I hope to god from shipping. I open the box and can't use my monitor because there's no US power adapter. I go to the store to get one. Also there's a note in the box which says the monitor has been opened due to "testing", although someone probably just returned it. The monitor OCs to 120Hz, but has image burn, a dark spot when OCed, and 2 dead pixels (I blame dream-seller).
On the 3rd, I ordered a Qnix from accessorieswhole. Got the monitor on the 6th, and it has no problems.
dream-seller is a clown, don't order form him. I'm thinking of opening a complaint with eBay to get some of my money back because the item wasn't as described (no express shpiping) just to spite him.

End rant.

Otherwise, if anyone can help with image burn, I would appreciate it. I can live with dead pixels and a dark spot but the burn is pissing me off. It only happens when OCed and is only in the top right quadrant of the screen (where the dark spot is).

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That blows.. i ordered from dreamseller an xstar monitor... i hope im one of the lucky ones who got a good mmonitor!!
post #6599 of 25888
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Originally Posted by Jinru View Post

I managed to fix my backlight bleed by straightening the metal frame. The frame was curving inwards and pressing against the panel causing severe BLB. I couldn't take a before and after pic of my monitor since my phone couldn't do it justice. So I found the closest image resembling the level or BLB my monitor gave off.

The bottom portion of the BLB highlighted in red was how bad my monitor looked. The black area in the middle was where the peak of the curved frame was pinching the panel.

The result. BLB is a fraction of what it once was. I couldn't get rid of all of it since straightening the frame by hand proved difficult, but I can live with it now. I didn't try the Tape Mod since I didn't have any electrical tape at my disposal. I don't believe it would've made a difference in my case though.
Man you should've gotten some electrical tape before you opened it up tongue.gif
Removing the bezel and frame are a PITA.
I had a bent frame aswell, not as bad as you though. Also evened it out but also added electrical tape.
Fixed the BLB that annoyed me the most on dark backgrounds/movie watching. smile.gif

Here's a little before and after:



Edited by Deluxe - 9/7/13 at 9:41am
post #6600 of 25888
So does anyone with a glossy panel not have a glass panel on top? I'm seeing more "tempered glass" listings from sellers that also have a glossy listing. I ordered glossy and it had glass so I just want to make sure they are the same if I order a second one.
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