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quote name="Xentar712" url="/t/1384767/official-the-korean-pls-monitor-club-qnix-x-star/7250#post_20851425"]
1) 1600p is a different aspect ratio(16:10 vs 16:9). It's virtually the same ppi and more expensive
2) Assuming your video card has drivers for Linux, it's possible but I don't know for sure.
3) From what I understand the 2700 has more inputs and a scalar. The 2710 only has DVI-D and no scalar.
4) From the threads I was reading a few months ago, many were getting 90ish Hz. There might be more up to date info now - check those threads.
5) There is no HDMI port on these monitors. Personally, I avoid HDMI like the plague. The cables are more expensive(good ones at least) and all you gain is sound. They are also more limited than DVI-D and Displayport in resolution unless you have v1.4, in which case it's hard to tell just by looking at the connection or wire.
6) all need to be compatible. I don't know any card that has HDMI 2.0 yet. I thought it was coming out next year. Chances are if you have a wire that's 1.4 compatible, it will be 2.0 compatible. 2.0 is intended for 4k resolutions.[/quote]

1) According to this site: http://members.ping.de/~sven/dpi.html
30" 1600p is 100.63 PPI
27" 1440p is 108.79 PPI
Which is quite big as difference.
Is anything above 108.79 PPI in the market? Excluding anything costing over 1000$ and things like the IBM T220 which you can't use for modern desktop and games.

2) Are you referring to closed or open driver?

3) Is the lacking of DVI-D preventing the 2700 from getting OC'd @120Hz?

4) Is that possible without DVI-D?

5) What is going to be the next big standard, like VGA or USB? DVI, HDMI or DP?
Can something old like DVI match HDMI and DP?
I come from VGA and I would like to jump to something really new and advanced, DVI isn't "fascinating" me.

6) Do you mean that a modern monitor can't get any benefit from a HDMI 2.0 connection?
And that I need special VGA to take advantage of HDMI 2.0?
Reading here: http://www.nvidia.it/object/geforce-gtx-780-it.html#pdpContent=2
It doesn't specify which HDMI it has.

NEW question: I'm reading that QNIX 27XX are great panels in cheap monitor (which I don't care) but you can have various little problems in getting them @120Hz:
- some won't get @120Hz
- some will suffer from image burn
- some will suffer from backlight bleeding
- some will suffer from color retention
- something more I don't remember

The fact is: is there anything which is officially 120Hz?
Is there any better panel/monitor?
I prefer spending 600$ and get for sure a 1440p@120Hz than spending 300$ and get a lottery ticket.
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Originally Posted by Xentar712 View Post

1) 1600p is a different aspect ratio(16:10 vs 16:9). It's virtually the same ppi and more expensive
2) Assuming your video card has drivers for Linux, it's possible but I don't know for sure.
3) From what I understand the 2700 has more inputs and a scalar. The 2710 only has DVI-D and no scalar.
4) From the threads I was reading a few months ago, many were getting 90ish Hz. There might be more up to date info now - check those threads.
5) There is no HDMI port on these monitors. Personally, I avoid HDMI like the plague. The cables are more expensive(good ones at least) and all you gain is sound. They are also more limited than DVI-D and Displayport in resolution unless you have v1.4, in which case it's hard to tell just by looking at the connection or wire.
6) all need to be compatible. I don't know any card that has HDMI 2.0 yet. I thought it was coming out next year. Chances are if you have a wire that's 1.4 compatible, it will be 2.0 compatible. 2.0 is intended for 4k resolutions.

1) According to this site: http://members.ping.de/~sven/dpi.html
30" 1600p is 100.63 PPI
27" 1440p is 108.79 PPI
Which is quite big as difference.
Is there anything above 108.79 PPI in the market? Excluding anything costing over 1000$ and things like the IBM T220 which you can't use for modern desktop and games.

2) Are you referring to closed or open driver?

3) Is the lacking of DVI-D preventing the 2700 from getting OC'd @120Hz?

4) Is that possible without DVI-D?

5) What is going to be the next big standard (like VGA or USB): DVI, HDMI or DP?
Can something old like DVI match HDMI and DP?
I come from VGA and I would like to jump to something really new and advanced, DVI isn't "fascinating" me.

6) Do you mean that a modern monitor can't get any benefit from a HDMI 2.0 connection?
And that I need special VGA to take advantage of HDMI 2.0?
Reading here: http://www.nvidia.it/object/geforce-gtx-780-it.html#pdpContent=2
It doesn't specify which HDMI it has.

NEW question: I'm reading that QNIX 27XX are great panels in cheap monitors (but I don't care abount monitors) but they can have various little problems when getting them @120Hz:
- some won't get @120Hz
- some will suffer from image burn
- some will suffer from backlight bleeding
- some will suffer from color retention
- something more I don't remember

Question: is there anything over 1080p to be officially 120Hz?
Is there any better panel/monitor than QNIX 27XX?
I prefer spending 600$ to get 1440p@120Hz for sure than spending 300$ to get a lottery ticket.
Edited by dorcopio - 9/24/13 at 5:46am
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Originally Posted by valtopps View Post

im a noob with monitors I just order a 1440p monitor and people are talking about oc to 120hz. if my monitor can oc to 120hz can I watch 3d movies on it?
No, 3D monitors are able to polarize with the glasses to black out the screen, these are not.
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can the display port versions oc to 120hz as well?
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Just picked up a matte qnix from ipsledmonitors.com. They were backordered on all the glossy's frown.gif
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Killa Cam View Post

can the display port versions oc to 120hz as well?
No. Only the no-scalar DL-DVI only ones can.
Quote:
Originally Posted by dorcopio View Post

1) According to this site: http://members.ping.de/~sven/dpi.html
30" 1600p is 100.63 PPI
27" 1440p is 108.79 PPI
Which is quite big as difference.
Is there anything above 108.79 PPI in the market? Excluding anything costing over 1000$ and things like the IBM T220 which you can't use for modern desktop and games.
Ipad? Monitorwise, there's really nothing in the desktop market.
Quote:
3) Is the lacking of DVI-D preventing the 2700 from getting OC'd @120Hz?
Different design, different board. It has DL-DVI-D, but that isn't the issue. It's the internal electronics.
Quote:
4) Is that possible without DVI-D?
Not on these monitors.
Quote:
5) What is going to be the next big standard (like VGA or USB): DVI, HDMI or DP?
My prediction is HDMI, even though I detest it.
Quote:
Can something old like DVI match HDMI and DP?
Yes. Except for transmitting sound, which it can't do.
Quote:
6) Do you mean that a modern monitor can't get any benefit from a HDMI 2.0 connection?
The vast majority (like 99%+) of monitors and computers can't even take advantage of HDMI 1.4b, let alone HDMI 2.0.
Quote:
And that I need special VGA to take advantage of HDMI 2.0?
VGA is completely incompatible with HDMI.
Quote:
Reading here: http://www.nvidia.it/object/geforce-gtx-780-it.html#pdpContent=2
It doesn't specify which HDMI it has.
You need a DVI->VGA adapter to use that card with a VGA monitor, and you can only use one VGA monitor as it only has one DVI-I port that you can use with the adapter.
Quote:
NEW question: I'm reading that QNIX 27XX are great panels in cheap monitors (but I don't care abount monitors) but they can have various little problems when getting them @120Hz:
- some won't get @120Hz True. Most do, although some with issues.
- some will suffer from image burn Sort of true. It's "image retention", a temporary artifact which goes away. Various IPS/PLS panels have suffered from this issue. Not an issue at 60hz, tends to be exacerbated at high overclocks.
- some will suffer from backlight bleeding Very true. Quite common actually, but also can be (partially) fixed.
- some will suffer from color retention Generally true. It's the same issue as the "image burn".
- something more I don't remember Of course it's... well, it might be true. Uniformity and brightness issues at high overclocks is the other primary issue.
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Question: is there anything over 1080p to be officially 120Hz?
Not at the consumer level.
Quote:
Is there any better panel/monitor than QNIX 27XX?
Of course. How much do you want to pay? And what kind of "better" are you looking for?
Quote:
I prefer spending 600$ to get 1440p@120Hz for sure than spending 300$ to get a lottery ticket.
That monitor that you speak of does not exist, at any price right now. The Qnix/xstar is the only 1440p panel that can common get to 120hz, is PLS/IPS and can do so at a cheap price. Yes, it's a risk. It is, however, the only game in town.
Edited by kevinsbane - 9/24/13 at 7:13am
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Originally Posted by DaXxJaPxX View Post

Just picked up a matte qnix from ipsledmonitors.com. They were backordered on all the glossy's frown.gif
I got a Matte too and trust me, it is very nice so dont feel sad about the glossy smile.gif
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That monitor that you speak of does not exist, at any price right now. The Qnix/xstar is the only 1440p panel that can common get to 120hz, is PLS/IPS and can do so at a cheap price. Yes, it's a risk. It is, however, the only game in town.

Don't the Tempest monitors OC near 120Hz? Really, if he's willing to spend $600, just get any compatible monitor and put an Overlord PCB in it.
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Originally Posted by dorcopio View Post

1) According to this site: http://members.ping.de/~sven/dpi.html
30" 1600p is 100.63 PPI
27" 1440p is 108.79 PPI
Which is quite big as difference.
Is there anything above 108.79 PPI in the market? Excluding anything costing over 1000$ and things like the IBM T220 which you can't use for modern desktop and games.

Stick with 27" then. Those numbers might be closer - I'm not sure if the diagonal is rounded or not. Either way, 1600p monitors are a waste of money imho. 16:9 is just as good an aspect ratio.

You're not going to find any monitors with a higher ppi at that size. There just isn't a demand for it yet and most older video cards can't handle doing anything useful on it other than displaying stationary pictures. Plus, the price tag would be expensive. An iPad screen is tiny and easier to QC than a 27" panel.
Edited by Xentar712 - 9/24/13 at 7:27am
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I got a Matte too and trust me, it is very nice so dont feel sad about the glossy smile.gif

oh I wont. Im excited to go from my u2711 with crazy input lag and that annoying AG coaiting to one of these. OC or not, I still look at it as an upgrade. biggrin.gif . Can't wait to join to club haha.
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