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I can see you have some knowledge on the subject. So, in your opinion, for someone who can OC the monitor to say 96Hz or 100Hz, which settings is better for minimal tearing and stuff?

Cheers

If you're really sensitive to tearing, stuttering, low refresh rates, etc (I get massive migraines personally), you're pretty much stuck with vsync. There are a few game engines with built in limiters that will work, but universally not so much.

If you just want to reduce tearing without needing to completely eliminate it, a limiter set a few fps below your refresh rate can give you that effect, without introducing nearly as much of a latency or frame rate hit. I would not suggest only limiting it by 1 frame though - all the global frame limiters I've come across aren't perfectly steady, and the rate your select is a target rather than a rule. 3-5 frames below the refresh rate usually works well.

As for 96 vs 100 - if you're just gaming, 100 will give you the potential for slightly more fluidity, assuming your GPU can push all 100 frames.

Unless we start talking about shoddy ports with hard coded fps, in which case neither one is likely a good option (I say likely because these ports are usually set to multiples of 30. There's no rule about that though, so if for some bizarre reason it's set to 24, 96hz would actually work nicely).

Now, if you want a good global rate for your monitor, 96 is "better" than 100, because the vast majority of content is either going to run at 24fps (videos) or will run at your native refresh rate (anything rendered in real time, such as games). losing up to 4fps in gaming isn't a big deal, and having a more fluid video experience more than makes up for it (IMO).

120hz is what you really want though. It divides cleanly into 24, 30, and 60, thus giving you the ability for stutter and tear free playback of just about everything you are likely to encounter. 120 is also a nice improvement over 100 or 96 in terms of fluidity in games, if you have the GPU power to make use of it.

Another thing to note - the faster your refresh, the less noticeable tearing becomes. It'll still be there if you aren't using vsync - in fact you will actually get more tears - but the shift between frames will be smaller, and thus less visible. If you aren't too sensitive to tearing (sensitive in terms of headaches, I assume everyone who isn't legally blind can see them), running at the highest possible refresh rate with no vsync and no frame limiter is the way to go in games where you can push the framerate to or beyond the refresh rate (assuming you have a reasonably high refresh rate to begin with of course). This doesn't really apply to movies though, so users interested in this for gaming might want to make a second 96hz or 72hz profile for movies.
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when I play bf3 at 121hz I had the performance graph open while testing different capping of fps in msi afterburner and 120hz had the least spikes ,so could be different for everyone but that is the sweet spot on mine:D and I can see a big difference in smoothness .
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If you're really sensitive to tearing, stuttering, low refresh rates, etc (I get massive migraines personally), you're pretty much stuck with vsync. There are a few game engines with built in limiters that will work, but universally not so much.

If you just want to reduce tearing without needing to completely eliminate it, a limiter set a few fps below your refresh rate can give you that effect, without introducing nearly as much of a latency or frame rate hit. I would not suggest only limiting it by 1 frame though - all the global frame limiters I've come across aren't perfectly steady, and the rate your select is a target rather than a rule. 3-5 frames below the refresh rate usually works well.

As for 96 vs 100 - if you're just gaming, 100 will give you the potential for slightly more fluidity, assuming your GPU can push all 100 frames.

Unless we start talking about shoddy ports with hard coded fps, in which case neither one is likely a good option (I say likely because these ports are usually set to multiples of 30. There's no rule about that though, so if for some bizarre reason it's set to 24, 96hz would actually work nicely).

Now, if you want a good global rate for your monitor, 96 is "better" than 100, because the vast majority of content is either going to run at 24fps (videos) or will run at your native refresh rate (anything rendered in real time, such as games). losing up to 4fps in gaming isn't a big deal, and having a more fluid video experience more than makes up for it (IMO).

120hz is what you really want though. It divides cleanly into 24, 30, and 60, thus giving you the ability for stutter and tear free playback of just about everything you are likely to encounter. 120 is also a nice improvement over 100 or 96 in terms of fluidity in games, if you have the GPU power to make use of it.

Another thing to note - the faster your refresh, the less noticeable tearing becomes. It'll still be there if you aren't using vsync - in fact you will actually get more tears - but the shift between frames will be smaller, and thus less visible. If you aren't too sensitive to tearing (sensitive in terms of headaches, I assume everyone who isn't legally blind can see them), running at the highest possible refresh rate with no vsync and no frame limiter is the way to go in games where you can push the framerate to or beyond the refresh rate (assuming you have a reasonably high refresh rate to begin with of course). This doesn't really apply to movies though, so users interested in this for gaming might want to make a second 96hz or 72hz profile for movies.

Thank you for that insighfull info about tearing and refresh rates. I will use the Qnix qx2710 that I ordered mostly form gaming since I have a 720p 120Mhz projector for movies. I hope the OC reaches 100Hz.
My only doubt at the moment is regarding the "frame cap" within games. I noticed Crysis 3 had it but didnt understand what it´s for, would it be too much if you could explain me the implications?

Thanks
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Trying to adjust the screen cut-off problem via nvidia image adjustment is suggesting that there are extra lines on the screen that aren't used. I don't think that is the case


I understand that positioning the image will not necessarily fix this specific offset panel-in-bezel problem, and I know I can fix this specific problem by moving the panel within the bezel.

Regardless, I should STILL have the option of screen positioning within NVIDIA Control Panel. My frustration is that I don't have this capability, and I STILL won't be able to, even after I fix the panel-in-bezel alignment. Why does NVIDIA Control Panel not offer me the positioning controls???
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Thank you for that insighfull info about tearing and refresh rates. I will use the Qnix qx2710 that I ordered mostly form gaming since I have a 720p 120Mhz projector for movies. I hope the OC reaches 100Hz.
My only doubt at the moment is regarding the "frame cap" within games. I noticed Crysis 3 had it but didnt understand what it´s for, would it be too much if you could explain me the implications?

Thanks

Reread his second paragraph.
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I understand that positioning the image will not necessarily fix this specific offset panel-in-bezel problem, and I know I can fix this specific problem by moving the panel within the bezel.

Regardless, I should STILL have the option of screen positioning within NVIDIA Control Panel. My frustration is that I don't have this capability, and I STILL won't be able to, even after I fix the panel-in-bezel alignment. Why does NVIDIA Control Panel not offer me the positioning controls???

Wierd...I thought it was the other way around and AMD drivers did not have this capability.
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According to table 3.1 of the latest NVIDIA Control Panel User's Manual (~page 20 as seen in this image), only TVs and VGA displays have the option of screen position.

Is this true, or has anyone been able to use NVIDIA Control Panel to adjust screen position on these Korean monitors? (Note, not scaling or aspect ratio, but POSITION). Thanks!
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Reread his second paragraph.

I did but I dont undestand this part: "3-5 frames below the refresh rate usually works well." If I remember correctly I had the option to put 1, 2 or 3 frames. 3 frames below my refresh rate, for instance, would mean 97 frames (100-3=97) and I dont have that option there.
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You mean in some FPS limiter app? Which one?
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Ordered my non pixel-perfect Matte QNIX from green-sum Thursday and received it today. Nearly perfect display with only one dead pixel on the lower right hand corner near the Windows clock and no noticeable back light bleed. Extremely happy with the $309.90 spent. I also purchased a 3 year square trade warranty for $49.99 to ease my worries.

Now I believe I overlooked to 110hz with no problems using a Monoprice 24awg 6 foot cable but I am not sure how to verify this clock. I do notice that the screen is dimmer but that is the only thing. Will try higher clocks later this week.

I think my gtx 660ti is a little strained however driving this and my 27" Visio off hdmi. What cards are other people running?

If you can't tell the difference betweenn 110hz vs 60hz, then you probably don't need it.
With that said, easiest way to verify is by closing the control panel, then reopen it. If what ever you selected before you closed is still selected after you reopen it, then we can be pretty certain it's running at that frequency.
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I am beginning to worry, I ordered from Green-Sum, sent him a message asking him to send it through EMS (less taxes that way)like he suggested but they don't answer back, even though they already gave me the eBay feedback.

Give it time. He is probably getting flooded with orders. Takes a day or two to reply.
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