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post #7521 of 25922
Does anyone know how to play League Of Legends with overclocked monitor, the launcher itself wont load when I have my monitor overclocked but if I go down to native it loads.
post #7522 of 25922
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Originally Posted by coelacanth View Post

This was mentioned a couple times in this thread but not super clearly. This applies to the people with SLI setups who are trying to get over ~100Hz (400MHz pixel clock).

Nvidia has a pixel clock limit in their drivers. You can get around this limit by using Precision X (or other methods in this thread) if you have a single video card.

BUT for SLI setups, here's what ToastyX has to say as of June 8, 2013 about his patch:

"The patch is still needed in three cases:

1. SLI needs the full patch to work properly beyond 400 MHz pixel clock.
2. Some 500-series cards are limited to 400 MHz without the full patch. 600-series and newer cards are not limited.
3. CRU needs the regular patch to add resolutions beyond 330 MHz pixel clock. The regular patch won't break HDCP.

600-series and newer cards without SLI don't need the patch when using the NVIDIA control panel or the EVGA pixel clock feature."

A lot of us have SLI and these monitors so I thought this was worth repeating / clarifying. If you're not going to go over 100Hz, then you can just stick to Precision X (or whatever other method you use to overclock the Hz).
Good post mate!

So if I am going to be doing a tri sli with 660tis then as long as I stick to 100Mhz or less, I have no need to patch it, right?
post #7523 of 25922
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Originally Posted by mudzi View Post

Does anyone know how to play League Of Legends with overclocked monitor, the launcher itself wont load when I have my monitor overclocked but if I go down to native it loads.

LoL works fine for me..so thats weird - but im also using fullscreen borderless (windowed) mode..maybe that has something to do with it
post #7524 of 25922
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Originally Posted by jerrolds View Post

LoL works fine for me..so thats weird - but im also using fullscreen borderless (windowed) mode..maybe that has something to do with it

Well the patcher doesnt even start, but im currently patching in 60hz, I will probably be able to change to 120hz when im all logged in.
post #7525 of 25922
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Originally Posted by yasamoka View Post

@Spartan F8: Doesn't accessorieswhole have a suitable Pixel Perfect policy? I discussed this with him and he said that he tests with multiple color backgrounds and guarantees 0 dead and stuck pixels.

Many people have ordered from him and received monitors with 0 dead and stuck pixels and good BLB. I only remember reading one that didn't and they refunded him the price difference / offered to replace in some way (they tried to go for the first).

So I don't see why one wouldn't order from them. If they get a PP panel, that's that, if not, they refund the price difference. And more often than not they seem to be turning out to be actually PP.

I don't understand from the sample size we have how we can determine if PP is a scam if we haven't collected statistics for each seller and made sure everyone who is looking for stuck and dead pixels is actually finding them / knows the difference. It's too messed up to know this or that.

Thats where Im really stuck. Do I spend the extra cash knowing that its covered, or spend less and take a chance. BLB is not a concern just pixel errors.
post #7526 of 25922
Can you get squaretrade to cover you? PP is probably a scam, ive ordered 2 non-pp panels from Korea (Crossover/Qnix) and neither had any dead/bright/stuck pixels.

I know you can get them off Amazon, but i would think their pixel policy is the same as their other monitors.
post #7527 of 25922
What perfect pixel is:

100 monitors come down the line. 80% of these are actually "perfect pixel".
50 are pulled off. They get checked. 40 of those are marked perfect pixel. The rest are put back into the pool of monitors.

Of the general pool: 67% (40 out of 60) are "perfect pixel".
Of the "perfect pixel" poo: 100% are "perfect pixel".

This is if they are ACTUALLY doing what they claim. Best case scenario. Doubtful this is what actually happens. Anyways.

"perfect pixel" definition: who knows.

It is NOT the premium pixel guarantee that Dell offers.
It is not any kind of guarantee.
What it means, is that they checked it and they didn't see any bright pixel defects. They do not guarantee it will not develop bright pixel defects. They do not guarantee it will not have dark pixel defects. It does not guarantee that every pixel will be perfect. It does not guarantee that backlight bleed will not be a problem, tinting will not be present nor that uniformity will be good. It does not guarantee contrast will be good.

The only guarantee that pixel perfect/perfect pixel offers is that you will be paying more.

Perhaps you have a higher chance of getting a monitor without bright pixel defects. So far though, I haven't seen that that is the case.
post #7528 of 25922
So many assumptions on this thread seriously.
What are the facts from users ? That is what matters not all this speculation...
post #7529 of 25922
anyone else who ordered from IPSledmonitors check their CC statement? The company name it was under was POP-SHUVIT INDUSTRIES HOWELL MI, and was categorized by my CC as automotive.

Approval Code 02423R
Merchant Name POP-SHUVIT INDUSTRIES
Merchant City Name HOWELL
Merchant Zip Code 48855
Partial Shipment Indicator N
Merchant Category Description AUTO PARTS, ACCESSORIES
Broad Industry Description RETAIL-GENERAL
POS Mode Description ONLINE
Edited by DaXxJaPxX - 9/30/13 at 9:26am
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post #7530 of 25922
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Originally Posted by yasamoka View Post

@Spartan F8: Doesn't accessorieswhole have a suitable Pixel Perfect policy? I discussed this with him and he said that he tests with multiple color backgrounds and guarantees 0 dead and stuck pixels.
I am almost certain he does not. Doing such a test would be prohibitively expensive to do. Think of the logistics involved. You need to have the package delivered to you, then you need to open it, then hook it up, test it, and if it is perfect pixel, then you repackage, and reship. Twice the shipping costs, at least 10-15 minutes worth of worker time, another 10-15 minutes of processing time, and there goes ALL your profit margin. And that's if the monitor actually is "perfect pixel". What if it isn't? You've just opened a monitor! Now you can't sell the monitor as new, as it's been opened and clearly been "tampered" with. Worth much less. Testing pixel perfect only makes economic sense at the factory, before monitors are packaged and shipped.
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Many people have ordered from him and received monitors with 0 dead and stuck pixels and good BLB. I only remember reading one that didn't and they refunded him the price difference / offered to replace in some way (they tried to go for the first).

So I don't see why one wouldn't order from them. If they get a PP panel, that's that, if not, they refund the price difference. And more often than not they seem to be turning out to be actually PP.
Consider the following. I sell two lines of monitors. One is pixel perfect, the other is not. The PP line is $30 more. 80% of monitors are pixel perfect to begin with. People who buy non-PP get 80% perfect, 20% not; and if they get a "bad" monitor, oh well, it wasn't PP to begin with.

People who buy PP get 80% perfect, 20% not. The 20% complain as they paid for PP and didn't, get their (extra) money back. What's the difference? The PP people paid $30 more and got the exact same monitor. And they got nothing for their extra money, they just got the ability to pay more if they "won" the lottery and got the PP monitor, when the same person who bought a non-PP monitor would have the same chance to get a PP monitor, without having to pay more if they did.

That policy (refunding the difference) essentially says the following: "Buying PP monitors means that you get to pay extra if you get a good monitor". The policy can only make sense for a customer if the penalty to the seller for sending out a non-PP monitor is greater than the risk of actually sending out a clearly defective product. Otherwise, buying PP is only paying for the privilege of winning the prize, when there was no need to in the first place.
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I don't understand from the sample size we have how we can determine if PP is a scam if we haven't collected statistics for each seller and made sure everyone who is looking for stuck and dead pixels is actually finding them / knows the difference. It's too messed up to know this or that.
Considering the majority of monitors, PP or not, are actually without bright pixel defects, (i take it from this thread), then I think it is safe to say that buying PP is, at best, a poor use of money; and at worst, buying PP is falling for a scam.
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