Originally Posted by yasamoka @Spartan F8:
Doesn't accessorieswhole have a suitable Pixel Perfect policy? I discussed this with him and he said that he tests with multiple color backgrounds and guarantees 0 dead and stuck pixels.
Many people have ordered from him and received monitors with 0 dead and stuck pixels and good BLB. I only remember reading one that didn't and they refunded him the price difference / offered to replace in some way (they tried to go for the first).
So I don't see why one wouldn't order from them. If they get a PP panel, that's that, if not, they refund the price difference. And more often than not they seem to be turning out to be actually PP.
I don't understand from the sample size we have how we can determine if PP is a scam if we haven't collected statistics for each seller and made sure everyone who is looking for stuck and dead pixels is actually finding them / knows the difference. It's too messed up to know this or that.
I honestly think that accessorieswhole could be the one exception to this rule on the PP warranty. Accessorieswhole in the past has had great communication with several people who have bought from them. I myself have had good experiences. You have a good point about statistics but overall if something says "perfect pixel" but is in no way credible to that name(meaning the fact that it is not perfect and only covers dead not stuck, bright, dark, etc) this means by definition it is false advertising in regards to terminology. You could easily say in small print you exclude these circumstances but for the average user who is not going to look into this very deeply PP should be PP. This is why if you really want to try PP i always recommend contacting sellers and question what their "version" of the word "perfect" means. My reasons for calling it a scam is when they alter or make conditions to the word "perfect".
Bottom line is yes PP can still be summarized as a scam overall. Accessorieswhole and possibly other sellers could be exceptions to this general "consensus" (sense no-one has compiled all the data to essentially prove it as you pointed out). I would recommend everyone who seriously considers PP do their research here and with that individual seller.
Also keep in mind this is my opinion of what constitutes a scam. In my mind(and many others i would also assume) perfect should equal perfect(or comparable to name brand general quality) which is what makes this a scam as it is willing-fully mis-leading. You do see this type of mis-information with a hint of truth everywhere, for example i would also consider the marketing of TVs that only do frame interpolation as 120hz/240hz technically or partially a scam with the way it is worded. Where it simply says 120hz rather than saying 60hz filtered to 120hz. This is really close to the same as saying "Perfect" but this and this and this don't count. Mis-information is mis-information period. If these sellers sold this as "Dead pixel free" or "all pixels will at least turn on" then sure that would be fine as it in no way guarantees perfect functionality.
So bottom line here is saying perfect but in small print(which is not even present in most of these ebay sellers posts) saying but being broken in these SEVERAL ways don't count is SCAM material and should be reported as such. If you or anyone else thinks mis-representation is not scam material then we are going to have to agree to dis-agree.
Overall anytime you pay extra for a warranty i would do a bit extra research on what you just did(or did not in this case) buy. And accessorieswhole i will admit could be and has shown to be on several occasions a exception to this.