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post #8021 of 25892
@omgoblins

1. 7950, especially when overclocked is almost perfect for this panel. 90% of the games you can hit 120fps+, and the more modern games you can sacrifice things like AA/HBAO to get a good 90fps+. Just know that youre going as fast as your system allows, which is a good thing..nothing holding you back.

2. The are the same, the only reason i got a QNIX cuz it was cheaper than the XSTAR at the time

3. Korean ebay sellers are cheaper, harder to return, no real guarantees. IPSLedmonitors like companies still order from Korean ebay sellers but put your address for shipping - have the added cost of more insurance (shipping will be covered, or cheaper since its the US). Up to your level of braveness, most ppl get monitors fine from SK (i received 2 and theyre pretty much pixel perfect, one had BLB that i fixed). You get what you pay for here.

4. Just search for Dual Link DVI on monoprice - youll find them for around $10. Most of the time the supplied cable will do just fine.
post #8022 of 25892
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Originally Posted by jerrolds View Post

@omgoblins

1. 7950, especially when overclocked is almost perfect for this panel. 90% of the games you can hit 120fps+, and the more modern games you can sacrifice things like AA/HBAO to get a good 90fps+. Just know that youre going as fast as your system allows, which is a good thing..nothing holding you back.
What 90% of games can hit 120fps+ @ 1440p on a single 7950?
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Originally Posted by mboner1 View Post

Call me overly cautious but all Tue minor issues people have running at 120hz must mean its doing some sort of long term damage ?? It's not normal for 120hz to cause a dull image and lines surely. I think I'm just going to stick with 60hz, not to mention the fact that their aren't that many games I could have max settings in and maintain 120 fps.
Not necessarily. Almost all 120Hz OCs end up with a pixel clock above 450MHz (native capability of display controller). There's currently an increasing trend (finally!) for tightening your timings in order to lower that pixel clock, as that reduces the side effects of overclocking. The darkening is a gamma shift that occurs even with the pixel clock being way lower than 450MHz, such as @96Hz. It simply increases with pixel clock / refresh rate / both (tests have to be done to confirm).

Lines mean you've reached one of three bottlenecks: cable, monitor, graphics card. Lowering pixel clock will make it easier for all and will show a monitor bottleneck easier.
Edited by yasamoka - 10/11/13 at 2:41pm
post #8023 of 25892
To the owners here, how is the picture quality compared for example to other IPS panels not from Korea? Are they equal or worse?

I can imagine since you have to calibrate colours on your own if you OC to 120hz that they are not that optimal?
How is the picture quality if you stay at 60hz compared to 120hz?

Furthermore, 1440p @120hz just cries for CF or SLI, a single card is just not sufficient, unless you play on low settings or like 30 fps gaming on max settings.

edit, another question: what is the benefit of 120hz if you cannot use it if you are on a single card?
edit2, if someone wants 120hz, wouldnt it be just better to get the BenQ XL2420T?
Edited by dante`afk - 10/11/13 at 4:12pm
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post #8024 of 25892
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To the owners here, how is the picture quality compared for example to other IPS panels not from Korea? Are they equal or worse?

I can imagine since you have to calibrate colours on your own if you OC to 120hz that they are not that optimal? Furthermore, 1440p @120hz just cries for CF or SLI, a single card is just not sufficient, unless you play on low settings or like 30 fps gaming on max settings.

Compared to other PLS panels which this is, it compares favorably. I owned the asus pb278q which is 1440p and the qnix is much better. Not sure if it's because i got a glossy panel and the asus was matte or whether this is better no matter what. But one other thing this is better for is 1920x1080p, i always noticed with the asus that 1080p content looked better on my hdtv, but this one 1080p looks better than my hdtv.
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To the owners here, how is the picture quality compared for example to other IPS panels not from Korea? Are they equal or worse?

I can imagine since you have to calibrate colours on your own if you OC to 120hz that they are not that optimal?
How is the picture quality if you stay at 60hz compared to 120hz?

Furthermore, 1440p @120hz just cries for CF or SLI, a single card is just not sufficient, unless you play on low settings or like 30 fps gaming on max settings.

edit, another question: what is the benefit of 120hz if you cannot use it if you are on a single card?
edit2, if someone wants 120hz, wouldnt it be just better to get the BenQ XL2420T?

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post #8026 of 25892
I over clocked to 120hz and I get no lines or artifacts. The picture did get a bit darker but did try a few different color configs. Do I really need to be changing the cru settings? Have been reading here but still unsure.
post #8027 of 25892
Ohhhh, I gotta wait until Monday to get my new qnix. frown.gif
post #8028 of 25892
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Ohhhh, I gotta wait until Monday to get my new qnix. frown.gif

Just a couple of days ;-)
post #8029 of 25892
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Originally Posted by dante`afk View Post

To the owners here, how is the picture quality compared for example to other IPS panels not from Korea? Are they equal or worse?

I can imagine since you have to calibrate colours on your own if you OC to 120hz that they are not that optimal?
How is the picture quality if you stay at 60hz compared to 120hz?

Furthermore, 1440p @120hz just cries for CF or SLI, a single card is just not sufficient, unless you play on low settings or like 30 fps gaming on max settings.

edit, another question: what is the benefit of 120hz if you cannot use it if you are on a single card?
edit2, if someone wants 120hz, wouldnt it be just better to get the BenQ XL2420T?
People seem to misunderstand the draw of a refresh rate higher than 60Hz, its not just the framerate. At 96Hz, theres far less vertical tearing than 60Hz, removing the need for vsync (which hurts framerate and induces input lag), also theres less input lag as the delay between the frame being produced and it appearing is reduced. You don't need to be able to get to 96Hz to reap the benefits.

I had a VG278H for about a year, the refresh rate was nice but the colours and viewing angles were a total joke. The Qnix is less expensive, looks a billion times better and is just as good for twitch gaming once overclocked to 96Hz, I guess the single input reduces input lag, tested my VG278H and Qnix side by side (120Hz/96Hz) couldn't feel any difference in delay, though admittedly the 120Hz image on the Asus was a tad smoother. I don't regret the switch one bit, if these were under a more popular name and sold at their current price in the west, no one would buy anything else.
post #8030 of 25892
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Originally Posted by omgoblins View Post

Nice.

I have just a few questions before I buy a monitor that maybe someone could help me with. I've tried reading through the thread a bit and the 1st page, but I am juust a little bit unsure of what's what and when spending so much I want to be 100% confident.

1. I have an AMD 7950 3GB right now it's overclocked to 1100 / 1525 with no problems although I've had it at 1200/1700 before fine with Shogun 2, artifacting in Skyrim.
Is this a good video card for this monitor? I know it's not the worlds best, but it's pretty powerful I think. I actually have 2 of these cards, but I haven't crossfired them yet as I was going to use the second for another build, but if I have to I might put it in mine and just use my old 560-Ti for the other. I assume 2x 7950 would be enough to do 1440p but how high could I expect to overclock the *Monitor* with my gpus still keeping up? I know no one can say for sure, but a rough estimate would be great. Ideally I would like to shoot for 96Hz refresh rate, but I'm doubtful whether my one 7950 could push that alone.

2. Qnix or X-Star?
I know they are essentially the same and it seems most people go for the QNIX. Is there any reason to go for one over the other, like recent quality control or anything?

3. Where to buy. I see 4 options.
$309.90 - GreenSum do they get hit with customs charges now? I remember seeing someone say something about them or AW getting hit.
$346.48 - Amazon (ECOMADE ARENA)
$350.84 - ipsledmonitors
$359.58 (5-15 day ship) or $369.58 for 3-5 day shipping from neofeel
What is the best option for me? I live in the US. Is it worth it to pay $41 more from ipsledmonitors? I can't get a good read on the shipping/return situation from GreenSum. Some people saying they want you to pay but you can talk them out of it or have to do something to get them to? I wouldn't mind paying a little more to ensure return shipping is free and easy and/or that my money is staying in the US, but is that big of a difference (13%) worth it? Is there any difference in the quality of panels between the two vendors? The newegg and amazon look too risky to me.

4. It seems like I will need to buy a new cable and probably mount I see the mounts, but everyone talking about the monoprice cable and I don't see a link for it?

5. Is that it? Am I missing anything?

I'm really looking forward to upgrading from my 27" Hanns G 1980x1200 LCD monitor. It's a good number of years old now and even though there is no BLB or dead pixels, everything just feels kind of dull and its a big thick clunky monitor.

Thanks for any help guys, I know I must be the 10000th person to ask these questions biggrin.gif

1. Unless your playing older games or turning the settings way down no way you'll be getting a constant 120 or even 96fps with a single 7950, I'd crossfire for sure.

2. I would go for a Qnix as the X-star has been discontinued and may delay your order trying to get 1 like what happened to me when I tried to order 1 they emailed me back a few days later and asked if i would take a Qnix instead.

3. 1st monitor I ordered from Green-Sum, got it really fast, no dead pixels, overclocked to 120hz but it had major backlight bleed. 2nd monitor I ordered from iplsmonitors, took 7 days but was because they didn't have any X-Stars left and also DHL shipping took forev, but the monitor had no dead pixels or backlight bleed and overclocks to 120hz so perfect. Just my experiences though with these 2 sellers and I'm sure it's random.

4. Used the cable that came with each monitor and both overclocked to 120hz with 0 issues so I would just stick with the cable it comes with.

Hope this helps
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