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post #8211 of 25888
Note, Don't use regular AA in dead space or left 4 dead with a downsampled resolution. For some reason the game just pukes when both are used together. Downsampling would still beat AA anyway but you have to blow the games display config file to get the screen back so i wanted to let everyone know.

EDIT: Turns out shadowrun has no clue what to do with a 4K resolution. And it is not just the downsample either, i just tried it on my native 4K@30hz TV and it did the same thing. mad.gif
post #8212 of 25888
maybe im just blind but my menu doesn't look like yours. It doesn't have a display mode as reported by windows section in CRU when I hit edit the custom resolution.

Also why is it called down sampling? isn't it up-sampling adding more pixels than the monitor is designed for ? not trying to sound smart since i'm not when it comes to this.


Edited by HardwareDecoder - 10/17/13 at 2:40pm
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Originally Posted by HardwareDecoder View Post

maybe im just blind but my menu doesn't look like yours. It doesn't have a display mode as reported by windows section in CRU when I hit edit the custom resolution.

Also why is it called down sampling? isn't it up-sampling adding more pixels than the monitor is designed for ? not trying to sound smart since i'm not when it comes to this.


Firstly that is CRU not nvidia custom resolutions. CRU is not meant for downsampling as it does not have a rendered VS processed pixel count. If you have AMD then you need to use the "AMD downsampling tool".

Secondly, the reason it is called downsampling is because it is rendering a higher pixel count and then downsampling it to the screen thus creating a form of hardware anti-aliasing. Think of it as a brute force anti-aliasing. Up sampling would be something like Jinc or Lanzos creating new intermediary pixels by slicing the origin image through re-bit mapping. Old CRT's had a form of upsampling to them since there was no actual native resolution(or least in the way understand native today).

Please note that you would NOT use CRU for downsampling. Please take a look at these two very well laid out and detailed tutorials on downsampling. After reading through these you have a very good idea of what i being done here and the benefits/tradeoffs there are:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=509076

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=346325
post #8214 of 25888
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Originally Posted by Spartan F8 View Post

Firstly that is CRU not nvidia custom resolutions. CRU is not meant for downsampling as it does not have a rendered VS processed pixel count. If you have AMD then you need to use the "AMD downsampling tool".

Secondly, the reason it is called downsampling is because it is rendering a higher pixel count and then downsampling it to the screen thus creating a form of hardware anti-aliasing. Think of it as a brute force anti-aliasing. Up sampling would be something like Jinc or Lanzos creating new intermediary pixels by slicing the origin image through re-bit mapping. Old CRT's had a form of upsampling to them since there was no actual native resolution(or least in the way understand native today).

Please note that you would NOT use CRU for downsampling. Please take a look at these two very well laid out and detailed tutorials on downsampling. After reading through these you have a very good idea of what i being done here and the benefits/tradeoffs there are:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=509076

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=346325

awesome will do.

edit: apparently that amd down sampling tool doesn't work for 13xx amd drivers mad.gif

it takes some process of reinstalling 12.11 adding the resolution and then reinstalling 13xxx

haven't even tested if that works.

Reading over the first link it seems this is a form of AA and the monitor won't actually be displaying 4K as I thought it was...... Seems i'm not as interested as I thought at first.
Edited by HardwareDecoder - 10/17/13 at 3:59pm
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post #8215 of 25888
It is a form of aliasing but if you look at those tutorial pictures you will notice it IS and day different from other forms of AA. But no not true 4K.
post #8216 of 25888
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It is a form of aliasing but if you look at those tutorial pictures you will notice it IS and day different from other forms of AA. But no not true 4K.

yeah I got all excited that this monitor could do 4k rolleyes.gif

Seems to be alot more difficult to get it to work on amd hardware (of course) or i'd check it out.

Honestly i'm already torn between running stuff @ 1440p/60/96/110hz. Seeing as how even with xfire 7950s I'm gonna have to play stuff on low to keep up 110+fps most of the time.

I figure the higher refresh rate only makes a big deal on online fps games where a fraction of a second make a big difference some times.

For single player games 60 is fine with everything on ultra.

Wondering what other peoples thoughts are.
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I have a question that might seem stupid to some, but why are the normal overclock numbers people use are 96, 110, and 120hz? Why not 104, or 115, or some other number? Is there some common denominator that I am not seeing in the three?
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Thought I'd post my project here, figure y'all be interested. QNIX 2710 + 2 laptop screens for the perfect surround setup. I would have made a build log... but I'm bad bout that stuff.



A wonderful and unique setup. Had to use laptop screens because there were no commercially available high res screens of the correct size. Utilizing laptop screens for portrait, i was able to maintain the correct resolution 1440p with appropriately sized monitors. As an added benefit, the bezels on the laptop screens are ridiculously small. Have yet to do brightness/contrast adjusting, will get to it soon.

As far as the size and resolution of the display as a whole, I believe it is a near perfect setup for many video game genre's(fps, rpg, and driving to be included). After sampling many setups, i find the portrait-landscape-portrait setup to be the most ideal for gaming. Typical surround, 3x landscape, wasted resolution too far into my peripheral vision and had bezels too close to the center/focus of the image. Come time to browse the interwebs, i got another 21.5" sitting on the side.

Edit: making the frame and getting the right controller boards were a beach and a half.
Edited by thehidecheck - 10/17/13 at 5:29pm
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Thought I'd post my project here, figure y'all be interested. QNIX 2710 + 2 laptop screens for the perfect surround setup. I would have made a build log... but I'm bad bout that stuff.



A wonderful and unique setup. Had to use laptop screens because there were no commercially available high res screens of the correct size. Utilizing laptop screens for portrait, i was able to maintain the correct resolution 1440p with appropriately sized monitors. As an added benefit, the bezels on the laptop screens are ridiculously small. Have yet to do brightness/contrast adjusting, will get to it soon.

As far as the size and resolution of the display as a whole, I believe it is a near perfect setup for many video game genre's(fps, rpg, and driving to be included). After sampling many setups, i find the portrait-landscape-portrait setup to be the most ideal for gaming. Typical surround, 3x landscape, wasted resolution too far into my peripheral vision and had bezels too close to the center/focus of the image. Come time to browse the interwebs, i got another 21.5" sitting on the side.

Edit: making the frame and getting the right controller boards were a beach and a half.


That is awesome. At some point I am going to have to do something with 3 screens, but I don't think I am smart enough to do it this way. Good work.
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Thought I'd post my project here, figure y'all be interested. QNIX 2710 + 2 laptop screens for the perfect surround setup. I would have made a build log... but I'm bad bout that stuff.



A wonderful and unique setup. Had to use laptop screens because there were no commercially available high res screens of the correct size. Utilizing laptop screens for portrait, i was able to maintain the correct resolution 1440p with appropriately sized monitors. As an added benefit, the bezels on the laptop screens are ridiculously small. Have yet to do brightness/contrast adjusting, will get to it soon.

As far as the size and resolution of the display as a whole, I believe it is a near perfect setup for many video game genre's(fps, rpg, and driving to be included). After sampling many setups, i find the portrait-landscape-portrait setup to be the most ideal for gaming. Typical surround, 3x landscape, wasted resolution too far into my peripheral vision and had bezels too close to the center/focus of the image. Come time to browse the interwebs, i got another 21.5" sitting on the side.

Edit: making the frame and getting the right controller boards were a beach and a half.

nice modi and magni I see you got tired of the bright led on the modi biggrin.gif
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