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Originally Posted by HardwareDecoder View Post

I don't know which version of IPS they are based off, but yes they basically changed some stuff from IPS because they didn't want to pay LG anything. I know they are advertised as 8 bit just like IPS.

I don't know if that is somehow a lie. I know that PLS looks perfectly good to me, I Certainly wouldn't pay double for a dell IPS vs a korean PLS. You may feel differently.

The thing about 120hz is that is not worth it to me. I will need to 2 titans to drive it up, I can probably only afford one. It will be a useless gimmick for me.
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The thing about 120hz is that is not worth it to me. I will need to 2 titans to drive it up, I can probably only afford one. It will be a useless gimmick for me.

The only game so far i've bothered to actually play with the monitor overclocked is Bf3 multiplayer. Seems like i'd rather have the quickest reaction possible for online and sacrifice settings.

That being said I get 100-150 fps all the time with my two 7950's on low @ 1440p.

Single player games I will likely play on ultra @ 1440p and get over 60fps.

You can get two 7950's for around $400 now and totally spank a 780 @ 1440p

And if you aren't interested in overclocking the monitor than a qnix probably isn't for you. Get a crossover or an achevia IPS monitor then, they have no backlight bleed issues like the qnix can have.
Edited by HardwareDecoder - 10/17/13 at 8:12pm
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post #8243 of 25892
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The only game so far i've bothered to actually play with the monitor overclocked is Bf3 multiplayer. Seems like i'd rather have the quickest reaction possible for online and sacrifice settings.

That being said I get 100-150 fps all the time with my two 7950's on low @ 1440p.

Single player games I will likely play on ultra @ 1440p and get over 60fps.

You can get two 7950's for around $400 now and totally spank a 780 @ 1440p

And if you aren't interested in overclocking the monitor than a qnix probably isn't for you. Get a crossover or an achevia IPS monitor then, they have no backlight bleed issues like the qnix can have.

Yeah, I am not running this low. Alright, I think I might just go for the U2913WM on craigslist or go for a dell or something. Maybe go for tri U2410 since I already have one.
post #8244 of 25892
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Originally Posted by Kokin View Post

I assume it's similar to the colors of the 6-bit S-IPS monitors that HP/Dell use. I'll be getting my Qnix tomorrow and I can compare it to my HP ZR22w's.

I wouldn't go for the ultra-wide res, I hate my Eyefinity setup in Landscape, as it is just way too wide and short. Hence why I always have it as Portrait.

Yes, it is a photo I took of the Kurisu 1/8 scale figma my gf bought for me. thumb.gif

Cool. Thanks for confirming it is a 6 bit dithering. I definitely will not purchase one then.
post #8245 of 25892
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Cool. Thanks for confirming it is a 6 bit dithering. I definitely will not purchase one then.

I don't think he really confirmed anything..... note the word assume.
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post #8246 of 25892
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I don't think he really confirmed anything..... note the word assume.

Point. Still, all evidents lead to a 6 bit dithered to 8 bit.
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Originally Posted by Testier View Post

Are the PLS superior to the normal IPS panels? I am assuming they are true 8 bit not dithered right? And would a 29 inch 2560 x 1080 be comparable to it?

Off topic: is your profile pic from steins gate?

They are both very similar when comparing brighter images. PLS does better with dark images since its blacks are lower, but gamma also shifts so the whole picture is darker - so overall contrast is almost the same. I find the PLS to be harder to calibrate (without your own hardware) since everyones panel overclocks alittle differently - the gamma shift on my 120hz might be different than yours. So if we use someones shared icc profile - it could look quite different.

Luckily for me i have a calibrated panel beside it so i can tweak and get them looking identical, at least visually.

a 29" 2560x1080p would not be compatible as the pixel pitch on that monitor will be waaaay less denser, it look pretty crappy comparatively imo. For example the Dell 2913WM has a pixel pitch of 0.09 (H) mm x 0.26 (V) mm

Using this website http://members.ping.de/~sven/dpi.html - it caculates 2560x1080@29" is 0.2651mm while a 27" 2560x1440 would be 0.2335mm

I couldnt find any posted pixel pitch of 2560x1440p QNIX tongue.gif im sure you can dig deeper
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They are both very similar when comparing brighter images. PLS does better with dark images since its blacks are lower, but gamma also shifts so the whole picture is darker - so overall contrast is almost the same. I find the PLS to be harder to calibrate (without your own hardware) since everyones panel overclocks alittle differently - the gamma shift on my 120hz might be different than yours. So if we use someones shared icc profile - it could look quite different.

Luckily for me i have a calibrated panel beside it so i can tweak and get them looking identical, at least visually.

a 29" 2560x1080p would not be compatible as the pixel pitch on that monitor will be waaaay less denser, it look pretty crappy comparatively imo. For example the Dell 2913WM has a pixel pitch of 0.09 (H) mm x 0.26 (V) mm

Using this website http://members.ping.de/~sven/dpi.html - it caculates 2560x1080@29" is 0.2651mm while a 27" 2560x1440 would be 0.2335mm

I couldnt find any posted pixel pitch of 2560x1440p QNIX tongue.gif im sure you can dig deeper

I know about the ICC thing. Without a calibrator, the ICC profile from another monitor is completely useless. Hmm so my U2410 currently have 0.27ishm pixel pitch. Interesting. I might end up spending more on a U2711, but I have yet to seen a reasonable priced one available for purchase.
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Well i am not sure if anyone is interested but here is my settings for downsampling the Qnix to 4K. I have been PMing back and forth with another member trying to optimize this to try and get 4K at as high of a refresh as possible. So far i can only get 55hz but the other member has been able to get 60hz. His timings don't work for me but mine are a bit more tight so he may get higher once he gets back to me. The goal for me is to get 4K@72hz downsampled(may not be possible but it is a good number to shoot for).
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This will be most usefull for people who want the highest detail possible with even sacrificing the high refresh. Many people think 72hz is a big leap from 60hz and many can't see a big difference from 96hz to 120hz(not counting lightboost as the Qnix does not have it). I have played several games with the 4K downsample and i can really say it does help a lot(especially with older games). Also many games that are not FPS or very reaction skill based would benefit more from the mass increased detail and sharpness. I played some Skyrim at 1440p@120hz and then 1440p@60hz and really there was not a major difference(may be due to the games somewhat poor coding). I then applied the downsample and played 4K@55hz. The increased detail and clarity is not night and day but is definitely worth noting. Other games like civilization were benefited greatly by the increased map scope or screen real estate.

I welcome any other members interested in this to try it out and share their settings. The higher the refresh @ 4K the better. Any higher downsample than 4K is a bit more of a bragging right but i would still be interested to see it. My current highest downsample is 5120x2880@24hz(48hz interlaced). I find this to be the one other form of overclocking that has not been explored to much here so it would be great to at least get some good research behind it.

Happy overclocking smile.gif



EDIT: I would also like to note if you do not get to 60hz and only get something like 55~58hz then it will not be a standard refresh per your EDID(so it will not show up in games). Normally many downsampling people will tell you to manually hack the EDID to include the odd refresh but you can also add a native offset refresh to CRU. For example if your 4K downsample is 57hz and it does not show up in games then add a custome resolution in CRU for 1440p@57hz. This is an in-direct way of "hacking" the EDID(which i find MUCH easier as it is like 6 steps instead of two more applications and 36 steps). After there is a native resolution with that refresh windows will now see it as a standard refresh thus displaying it in games and the windows resolution selector and displaying it for all intermediary resolutions(including your 4K downsample).
This convinced me to buy one.
Downsampling is not for every game, but it works wonders with complex trees, grass and resolution-dependent LOD.

+rep and keep up the good work thumb.gif
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Yeah, I am not running this low. Alright, I think I might just go for the U2913WM on craigslist or go for a dell or something. Maybe go for tri U2410 since I already have one.

yeah it occured to me something must be wrong and I figured out that the ULPS power saving setting had been turned back on somehow, turned it off and was getting 90-130+ fps on ultra w/ no msaa. So overclocking to 110+hz is a def win with my setup.

Point is you don't need 2k worth of gpu's to push 1440p @ 120hz I have 400 worth of gpus
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