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post #8911 of 25893
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Originally Posted by drdrache View Post

I am trying to sort out what you consider black, since everyone agrees, the blacks on these PLS screens (NOT IPS which you seem to indicate)
is the blackest you can get. And if you are not getting your blacks in one game, then it's that game's colors that are off. try another calibrated ICS.

the technology that is refered to as IPS glow, isn't just IPS/PLS screens, it's every LCD, usually LED back-lighted. and is known as Backlight bleed.

As far as I know, 99% of the people with calibration tools and these monitors, didn't buy the multi-inputs for a reason. (i know I didn't, but I wanted 96/120hz)


TL;DR : the screens blacks are about as black as the come, if not, fix your software's colors.

thanks for the reply. I saw online that people were saying the blacks were good, I just cant see it though... I dont have a lot of BLB, I think Im quite fortunate in this regard, but I do have this kind of glow on all the blacks on the screen. I will try take some pics and then post here so you can see what Im talking about.

I have mounted the screen on the wall using VESA mounts, as I was sitting too close to it. It's also now on eye level and this has definitely appeared to help with things.

If I could just get rid of the glow i would be happy. My Samsung T260 had no glow whatsoever.
post #8912 of 25893
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Originally Posted by Broadband View Post

brightness 87
contrast 100

as profile I am using that on this thread's first page (the one suited for 60 Hz)

Is it looking good? Hard to tell, I don't have anything to compare it with.

I've even tried to calibrate witha proper HW tool, more than once. Didn't look good at all, way too yellow.

Hopefully we'll fins sombody else with the same multi input screen

sheesh bro, doesnt that brightness burn your eyeballs on a white background?? thinking.gif

what tool are you using to calibrate? what is the brightness level on your tool saying when you have the screen set to 87 on the OSD (in cd/m2)

I used this profile
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Personally, out of every calibration profile posted here the Asus PB278Q.icc (TFT Central source, not User source) looked the best on my monitor, and is a favorite for others as well. (It becomes named Asus PB278Q v3.icc when loaded into windows color management).

and I used this tool

http://goebish.free.fr/cpk/

cheers
Edited by HTC_guy - 11/6/13 at 3:19am
post #8913 of 25893
excellent thread on another site details exactly what Im reffering to. a clear disadvantage of IPS/PLS technology.

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1749881
post #8914 of 25893
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Originally Posted by HTC_guy View Post

excellent thread on another site details exactly what Im reffering to. a clear disadvantage of IPS/PLS technology.

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1749881


I don't see the point of that thread, other than they incorrectly place PLS and IPS in the same categorys that they don't 100% belong in.
namely color reproduction. they are very very similar technologys I agree, but to group them as the same (where anyone with eyes can see the differences, namely in blacks.), if you do that; might as well add TN panels to the group.

I don't know where that discussion was going, but it degraded into "CRT vs LCD" which we don't need. CRTs are now more of a niche that the crts that people want to compare to, most of them that are being used as the shining examples of crt tech, not a single normal consumer could afford, nor afford the hardware to run it (how many people had cards that could push the HZ with a RGBHV Monitor Cable? ) . they were super high end (Read : QHD prices) so, it's not a fair assessment.


do we want LCD tech to get pushed? of course. should we spend our time wishing it was like CRTs? I don't think so personally. innovation is a forward looking concept, not wishing of the past....

(this rant is not directed at the quoted, I just got going.... sorry tongue.gif )
post #8915 of 25893
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Originally Posted by drdrache View Post

I don't see the point of that thread, other than they incorrectly place PLS and IPS in the same categorys that they don't 100% belong in.
namely color reproduction. they are very very similar technologys I agree, but to group them as the same (where anyone with eyes can see the differences, namely in blacks.), if you do that; might as well add TN panels to the group.

I don't know where that discussion was going, but it degraded into "CRT vs LCD" which we don't need. CRTs are now more of a niche that the crts that people want to compare to, most of them that are being used as the shining examples of crt tech, not a single normal consumer could afford, nor afford the hardware to run it (how many people had cards that could push the HZ with a RGBHV Monitor Cable? ) . they were super high end (Read : QHD prices) so, it's not a fair assessment.


do we want LCD tech to get pushed? of course. should we spend our time wishing it was like CRTs? I don't think so personally. innovation is a forward looking concept, not wishing of the past....

(this rant is not directed at the quoted, I just got going.... sorry tongue.gif )

no problem at all. I agree that it did turn into a bit of a CRT vs LCD debate, and I agree that one needs to move ahead and push ahead new tech.

I guess my point was more the first page or two, where they touched on the blacks achieved by LCD tech. The best description I have found so far...
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It does get better if you turn down the brightness to next to nil, but you will still see what appears to be black with this transparent white layer superimposed on top

I will have to fiddle around to get my brightness and contrast right, but its tricky as I dont have a calibration tool and I cant use the "use 22 clicks from bottom" method as I have the multi input model,, which means I have an OSD to adjust brightness and contrast.
post #8916 of 25893
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Originally Posted by HTC_guy View Post

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Originally Posted by drdrache View Post

I don't see the point of that thread, other than they incorrectly place PLS and IPS in the same categorys that they don't 100% belong in.
namely color reproduction. they are very very similar technologys I agree, but to group them as the same (where anyone with eyes can see the differences, namely in blacks.), if you do that; might as well add TN panels to the group.

I don't know where that discussion was going, but it degraded into "CRT vs LCD" which we don't need. CRTs are now more of a niche that the crts that people want to compare to, most of them that are being used as the shining examples of crt tech, not a single normal consumer could afford, nor afford the hardware to run it (how many people had cards that could push the HZ with a RGBHV Monitor Cable? ) . they were super high end (Read : QHD prices) so, it's not a fair assessment.


do we want LCD tech to get pushed? of course. should we spend our time wishing it was like CRTs? I don't think so personally. innovation is a forward looking concept, not wishing of the past....

(this rant is not directed at the quoted, I just got going.... sorry tongue.gif )

no problem at all. I agree that it did turn into a bit of a CRT vs LCD debate, and I agree that one needs to move ahead and push ahead new tech.

I guess my point was more the first page or two, where they touched on the blacks achieved by LCD tech. The best description I have found so far...
Quote:
It does get better if you turn down the brightness to next to nil, but you will still see what appears to be black with this transparent white layer superimposed on top

I will have to fiddle around to get my brightness and contrast right, but its tricky as I dont have a calibration tool and I cant use the "use 22 clicks from bottom" method as I have the multi input model,, which means I have an OSD to adjust brightness and contrast.


I agree, there is a fine point between "bright enough to actually see" and "**** colors are washed out", I personally hate having to turn on more lights to see my monitor better, so I deal with "greyer" blacks to get a bit more brightness from my screen. OF COURSE....

if I had a working calibration tool, quite a bit of that can be fixed. (and, if you had one, you could keep your settings "neutral" and get really close to desired)
post #8917 of 25893
I just pulled the trigger and ordered one of these last night went with the x-star from dream-seller, only 299. Says it shipped last night, cant wait to get it and i hope it comes this weekend, but that's a tall order. Whats the fastest people have gotten them from Korea?
post #8918 of 25893
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Originally Posted by Wakalakaz View Post

I just pulled the trigger and ordered one of these last night went with the x-star from dream-seller, only 299. Says it shipped last night, cant wait to get it and i hope it comes this weekend, but that's a tall order. Whats the fastest people have gotten them from Korea?

3 working days from dream-seller's "shipped"

ordered Sunday morning (like 4am ish (Sunday 4pm in Korea) ) it was on my doorstep in Michigan, USA wed, about noon.

NOW, I see that as a best case, most of my other orders, were 4 working days. with one being held up for a total of 6 working days (some holiday in korea)
post #8919 of 25893
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Originally Posted by drdrache View Post

3 working days from dream-seller's "shipped"

ordered Sunday morning (like 4am ish (Sunday 4pm in Korea) ) it was on my doorstep in Michigan, USA wed, about noon.

NOW, I see that as a best case, most of my other orders, were 4 working days. with one being held up for a total of 6 working days (some holiday in korea)

ahh i c thanks the the reply. Yeah hopefully i will have it on Saturday so i can mess with it this weekend. Im super pumped for the 1440p, i remember when 1080p came out and my parents got an HDTV. At first I could barely tell the difference and though HD was a scam and stupid. Fast forward a year of 2 and now im spoiled its 1080 or bust for me. Hopefully this kick ass monitor wont spoil all the other 1080p screens for me lol.

Side note, how do 1080p movies and TV shows look on this thing? do they stretch or get distorted at all?
post #8920 of 25893
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Originally Posted by Wakalakaz View Post

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Originally Posted by drdrache View Post

3 working days from dream-seller's "shipped"

ordered Sunday morning (like 4am ish (Sunday 4pm in Korea) ) it was on my doorstep in Michigan, USA wed, about noon.

NOW, I see that as a best case, most of my other orders, were 4 working days. with one being held up for a total of 6 working days (some holiday in korea)

ahh i c thanks the the reply. Yeah hopefully i will have it on Saturday so i can mess with it this weekend. Im super pumped for the 1440p, i remember when 1080p came out and my parents got an HDTV. At first I could barely tell the difference and though HD was a scam and stupid. Fast forward a year of 2 and now im spoiled its 1080 or bust for me. Hopefully this kick ass monitor wont spoil all the other 1080p screens for me lol.

Side note, how do 1080p movies and TV shows look on this thing? do they stretch or get distorted at all?

I think they look awesome, but I use MadVR upscaling with smoothing (120hz), even without madvr... they still look 1080p.
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