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I thought I would chime back in after being MIA from this thread for a while. So I had the MSI TF3 7970, returned it and got 7950 sapphire x2 crossfire to replace it.

After this week with the 2 7950's...i can honestly say im done with AMD at least for this generation. BOTH cards coil whine, BOTH cards fans rattle. Crossfire microstutter makes me want to bang my head onto my desk. Yes, I used radeonpro, yes I disabled UPLS etc etc etc.....

It shocks me how these expensive "high" build quality videocards are so......****ty. I dont know whats going on with AMD but im done investing time and money into the red side for something that might or might not work how I want it to.

Returning the sapphire cards......Gtx 780 here I come

i dont think it is amd i think it is the other manuf. making cheap pcbs and whatnot and bios's that suck
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DAMN somebody beat me to the MSI ref 7970... I was just about to order it. I'm not sure if Newegg just keeps getting 1 at a time or just thinks they keep running out of them and then they find a random one laying around their shops, because every time they sell one they say it's discontinued...

ALSO newegg is down to just 3 Diamonds, when they had more than 5 yesterday... If anyone in this thread wants one with the game bundle you'll wanna grab it quick. I might just order one and hold it unopened for a while, and if they put up another MSI reference I'll return the Diamond for a full refund, because the MSI is $20 cheaper and has way better warranty and probably works better with AB than the Diamond does...
Edited by iamhollywood5 - 5/24/13 at 11:59am
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This MSI ref 7970 really overclocked well, easily hit 1300/1825 on air @ 1268 VDDC in AB, (second GPU) in xfire. Can't wait to see how it goes underwater.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6621588

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I'd say no to the Twin Frozr 3. Idk if you've been keeping up with my posts in this thread but both the original and replacement couldn't reach 1200. First card maxed out at 1150Mhz needing 1.3v to do so. Not sure if the 2nd card can surpass 1150 but I know it can't do 1200. Both were very loud. Loudest coil whine I've ever heard and the fans were pretty annoying past 70% too.

The general consensus seems to be to go for a pure reference card. Even on air they seem to consistently get past 1200. The MSI true reference card is back in stock and is the same price as the TF3, so I'd go with the full reference card. However, tsm106 says MSI is supposedly using the alternate PCB on the reference-cooler card. I have no idea and this makes me skeptical of buying one. SLK has one still factory sealed, he could always open it up and find out for us tongue.gif
XFX and Sapphire are at the bottom of my list because they are so cheap with their components. Diamond might have terrible support but at least they tend to sell good cards. I don't know what's going on with MSI lately, they used to be one of the best brands.

Anyways... that MSI reference model is back in stock again... and there's literally only 1 in stock. SLK is it yours? Did you send it back to Newegg already? lol
hmm seems like there are quite a lot of negative feedback about the 7970 TF3. How about the His 7970 IceQ? Or may i ask in the 7970 with unlockable voltage, which brand and model should i go for?
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This MSI ref 7970 really overclocked well, easily hit 1300/1825 on air @ 1268 VDDC in AB, (second GPU) in xfire. Can't wait to see how it goes underwater.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6621588


The bottom card in that pic is the MSI reference? If so that looks nothing like what's shown on Newegg... not only is it the alternate brown PCB used on the TF3 (which we already knew), the heatsink/fan shroud looks different as well. The pics show black and red (not pure black) and no MSI logo.

but if you're getting that kind of OC... holy crap dude that's a golden chip. 1300 on a blower style cooler at 1.268V is insanely lucky.

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hmm seems like there are quite a lot of negative feedback about the 7970 TF3. How about the His 7970 IceQ? Or may i ask in the 7970 with unlockable voltage, which brand and model should i go for?

My HIS 7970 IceQ was utter garbage but I still liked the design of it. Very sturdy and solid, well-built, had a nice PCB support rib to prevent warpage and an intelligently designed heatsink. Not a ref design PCB but still compatible with the same water blocks as ref PCBs. Most of the professional reviews found it OC'ing to 1250-1300+, but mine in particular was a 64.6% ASIC and couldn't pass 1150Mhz even with1.38v. Had coil whine and ran hot even at stock settings. Talking to other consumers, they had similar experiences.

For a voltage-unlocked 7970... The Lightning Boost Edition (1150Mhz stock) is being sold at SuperBiiz and would probably be a good bet. Otherwise it seems like it's best to go full reference...
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The bottom card in that pic is the MSI reference? If so that looks nothing like what's shown on Newegg... not only is it the alternate brown PCB used on the TF3 (which we already knew), the heatsink/fan shroud looks different as well. The pics show black and red (not pure black) and no MSI logo.

but if you're getting that kind of OC... holy crap dude that's a golden chip. 1300 on a blower style cooler at 1.268V is insanely lucky.

It's brownish pcb, it just looks identical to the R7970-2PMD3GD5/OC http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127652, retail box looks cheap compare to all other MSI GPU boxes, even the 7750 box looks better. The small "HD 7970" is a sticker.


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For a voltage-unlocked 7970... The Lightning Boost Edition (1150Mhz stock) is being sold at SuperBiiz and would probably be a good bet. Otherwise it seems like it's best to go full reference...
Well, i intend to use them to mine bitcoin so reference card would be a bit hot while in my country, changing heatsink will void warranty.
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It's brownish pcb, it just looks identical to the R7970-2PMD3GD5/OC http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127652, retail box looks cheap compare to all other MSI GPU boxes, even the 7750 box looks better. The small "HD 7970" is a sticker.


Wow that really is the cheapest possible box they could have used. But I can't believe that thing looks so different from the pictures on Newegg! Do you have any pictures of it outside of the case?


Also - I pulled the trigger and ordered the Diamond. It was the very last true reference card on Newegg and I'm very skeptical of them getting any more. I think I should be able to get $380 for that TF3. I can sell it as Like New because the thing is literally brand new and has only spent about 10 minutes total doing 3D rendering. You can hardly tell the package was even opened and the other components that came with it (like adapter cables) are still fully packaged up. Testing can confirm not DOA and the warranty will be fully transferred to the new owner. I'll probably also include the 4 game bundle that's coming with the Diamond card just to make the TF3 more enticing =)
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Wow that really is the cheapest possible box they could have used. But I can't believe that thing looks so different from the pictures on Newegg! Do you have any pictures of it outside of the case?


Also - I pulled the trigger and ordered the Diamond. It was the very last true reference card on Newegg and I'm very skeptical of them getting any more. I think I should be able to get $380 for that TF3. I can sell it as Like New because the thing is literally brand new and has only spent about 10 minutes total doing 3D rendering. You can hardly tell the package was even opened and the other components that came with it (like adapter cables) are still fully packaged up. Testing can confirm not DOA and the warranty will be fully transferred to the new owner. I'll probably also include the 4 game bundle that's coming with the Diamond card just to make the TF3 more enticing =)

lol if it was a good clocker i would buy it prolly...rofl
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Wow that really is the cheapest possible box they could have used. But I can't believe that thing looks so different from the pictures on Newegg! Do you have any pictures of it outside of the case?


Also - I pulled the trigger and ordered the Diamond. It was the very last true reference card on Newegg and I'm very skeptical of them getting any more. I think I should be able to get $380 for that TF3. I can sell it as Like New because the thing is literally brand new and has only spent about 10 minutes total doing 3D rendering. You can hardly tell the package was even opened and the other components that came with it (like adapter cables) are still fully packaged up. Testing can confirm not DOA and the warranty will be fully transferred to the new owner. I'll probably also include the 4 game bundle that's coming with the Diamond card just to make the TF3 more enticing =)

I will post some pics when the block arrives. FYI, its identical to the blower and brownish PCB of OC version.
Looked like they ran out of retail box so they used OEM box? The warranty date from the serial number is 1303.
I stil have a Diamond sitting in box, clocked 1200/1800 on air, bought from Diamond just 2 weeks ago without games mad.gif. Thinking to sell it for $380? and get a GTX780 for $150 after rakuten points.
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