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Since the powers that be keep removing my posts I will be quite surprised if this one doesn't dissapear as well (since it is Mac related).

I'm going to have to order a Mac (it appears). Anyways I was looking through apple's store and came upon two options.

Either the Mac Pro or the iMac

 

Which has the better cpu? If I'm reading everything correctly I think the iMac is better overall. It has an Ivy Bridge i7 Processor (as opposed to the Mac Pro's Nehalem). From my experience Nvidia always beats ATi and I know I'd almost have to upgrade the graphics card on the Mac Pro to something along the lines of EVGA's 600 Series Mac Editions so probably add another $2-300 and probably a monitor for the tower too.

 

Simply in terms of upgradability I think the tower. But since it uses old parts (read Nehalem and Radeon 5770) I'm not sure if grabbing the tower is worth it (even if it does have upgradability). As Apple does not provide cpu model numbers I cannot do a direct comparision. Similarly as they are for two different platforms I don't think I could make a good comparision between the Nvidia mobile (GTX 680MX 2GB) and ATi desktop gpu (Radeon HD 5770 1GB).

 

Which is the more efficient $2200 (in the long run I suppose)

 

 

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Edited by phazer11 - 4/22/13 at 4:54pm
     
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What do you need a dedicated desktop Mac for specifically? Do you need a Xenon or dual Xenon and a full dedicated GPU?
Most modern GPU's will work in a Mac Pro with some software tweaks.

I'd personally go iMac since it is more cost efficient. Plus you get thunderbolt, USB3 and the 27" IPS.
Unless what your doing with on OSX really needs more then a ivy bridge i7 and 680MX
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The biggest difference is the Xeon processors if that is mostly what you are worried about. The MacPro is configurable with a single or dual Xeon. The iMac is your standard desktop processor.

Plus to the Mac Pro is the ability to just pop in extra HD space if you need it. Also desktop memory is used instead of laptop memory. Otherwise I would say what you are using it for is going to count more. In general the MacPro is meant to upgrade. Just because it a slightly older gen processor does not rule it out as a power house.
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Which is the more efficient $2200 (in the long run I suppose)

Totally depends on what you're going to use it for... however, one thing to consider is that although the processor is more 'pedestrian' in the iMac... you are getting a complete system for that $2200. You're getting a very basic box with no display and no 'bells and whistles' with the Pro - not to mention that you should definitely wait for an update on that one.

If you don't have a nice display already... that $2200 for the Pro is going to look a lot more like $3K before you're through.

Another option is you could always get a Mini, an HDMI switcher (or a monitor with multiple inputs) and build/buy a $1K PC to sit under the Mini. When you want to play games, etc... use the PC... when you want to do whatever you are planning on doing with the Mac... use the Mini. The cost will be the same, but you'll have 5-10X the rendering speed for gaming/CAD/whatever... and OSX without resorting to "non-licensed" methods. Don't get me wrong... the iMac's are nice (I have 2) but I would never dream of playing a 'real' game on them... they're just for web, casual browsing, and playing music. For everything else... PC. Unless by 'game' you mean AngryBirds... then by all means.

And if you really feel that you just want a Mac Pro for everything when (if?) they release the next update... then pucker up and get ready to spend 4-5K on one... and you should be good for at least 5 years. But you will be very disappointed IMO if you try to go the Pro route on the cheap.
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