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Diminishing returns. Look at the Bugatti Veyron, just see how much more BHP they had to put into the SuperSport version just for a few more MPH in top speed.

Not sure if that's accurate, since the Air's resistance increases exponentially with speed.
What's resisting the Titan? and if someone says CPU bottleneck, I'm gonna take a dive in my trash can.
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I don't think Nvidia counts the Titan as a money maker, even if they sell 10,000 units.
IMHO, Nvidia released the Titan to consumer market (not the business one) to show what it can do, and that they are on a different level than the competitors.

What I don't understand is the performance. According to benchmarks/reviews of the Titan, it is around 30-40% faster than the 680. But it has around 80% more rendering power than the 680.
According to the specs, shouldn't it be around 60-70% faster than the 680 ?

Most numbers are in the 45% faster than the 680 range.

Though you have to remember that cuda cores aren't the only thing when it comes to performance. You also have to factor in ROPs, memory bandwidth and so on. The Titan is also clocked quite a bit lower.
 
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The 780 is rumored to be in between the 680 and Titan performance wise.
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post #24 of 86
They came up with the Titan because they could and because they knew people would buy it.
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Most numbers are in the 45% faster than the 680 range.

Though you have to remember that cuda cores aren't the only thing when it comes to performance. You also have to factor in ROPs, memory bandwidth and so on. The Titan is also clocked quite a bit lower.

Really? so compared to a 500$ 2GB 680, the Titan can command 700-750$ just from the performance. Add another 4GB memory & a sweet cooler, and it comes to around 1k$.
Why is everyone up in arms about the price....seems logical/reasonable, to me at least.
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Really? so compared to a 500$ 2GB 680, the Titan can command a 700-750$ just from the performance. Add another 4GB memory & a sweet cooler, and it comes to around 1k$.
Why is everyone up in arms about the price....seems logical/reasonable, to me at least.

Because they see $1000 and don't bother checking the pricing structure for nvidia products.

For example:

680 is around 45% faster than a 660 (non Ti) for around twice the price (a bit more)
A titan is around 45% faster than a 680 for around twice the price (again a bit more)

People always seem to expect performance to scale linearly with price but it doesn't. It's especially a weird assumption when talking about halo products and so on...
 
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post #27 of 86
They knew the titan was going to sell, because It's quotes like "A Single powerful GPU, IS always better than dual lesser GPU's in SLI" that i see being posted by A LOT of misinformed people that makes the Titan sell... Nvidia is not stupid, ofcourse they are here to make money, and Nvidia knows that people still strongly buy into that (single gpu) saying due to their SLI/X-fire experiences in 2001 lol. So they know that a lot of people will buy the Titan even at premium price, just because it's a Titan and it's single a card wink.gif
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I strongly believe in that today... if the titan was available last may I would have grabbed one of those instead.
 
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im sure the performance will get better too as the drivers get better. i mean if amd took till 12.1 or whatever to get their cards to perform.. im sure the current drivers isn't all we will see for the titan's performance as well.
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im sure the performance will get better too as the drivers get better. i mean if amd took till 12.1 or whatever to get their cards to perform.. im sure the current drivers isn't all we will see for the titan's performance as well.
Don't get confused with generation transition with Titan. After all, Titan is not new marchitecture. NV driver team already went through Fermi to Kepler generation transition more than a year ago.
Titan still belongs to the same 28nm Kepler family with GK104 (680 and 670). The driver for Titan is already mature as they are with 680 and 670.
Any further driver improvements will equally benefit 670/680/690 and Titan.
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