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But from the consumer standpoint, assuming you don't have unlimited money (which apparently for some 690 and Titan owners they do) why would you buy a card now that potentially very well could be bested by the $500 780 in a few months time. That $1k you dropped now could have bought you 2x the performance in a few months. That's what I mean. Seems like a lot of people are getting in line for a sucker punch. Especially if the Titan was a serious investment and you don't drive a lambo.

As much as I would like to disagree with you, the "gist" of your argument, unfortunately, is not entirely without merit.
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"I can pass up titan performance if I add another 670 ftw" so that's what I did.
When I bough my motherboard, I asked myself if i should get a SLI enabled one or just stick with a lower price range mobo. So I bought a board with only 1 PCIe16X because in my mind, SLI configs were overkill for 1920*1080@60Hz gaming... I bought a 680 and now i'm screwed because an overclocked 680 (currently 1200MHz) can't get a recent game running at max settings with V-Sync on.
So what are my options now ? I'm stuck with a single PCIe16X motherboard, A 500W PSU (cause it's enough for one 680) and a 680 that cost me an arm. If I choose to go for a SLI config i would spend 200 on a new mobo, 100 on a new PSU and 500 on a new 680 . that's 800 possibly diminished by the selling of the old parts. let's say I bough the mobo and psu for 80 each and selling them for 50 (cause there not that old) Upgrading my rig is going to cost 700.
Option 2 is to sell the 680 and get a titan. 1000 - 400 = 600. Cheaper for me to get a titan.
Now the performance of 2 gtx680 is better than a single titan but on a single 1920*1080 does it make a difference ? in 2 - 3 years wouln't I be better with a titan or a 680 sli considering the performance of a titan SLI over 2GB 680 Quad sli ? What about the future games and the VRam utilization increase ?

Early adoption can cause headaches ... Because a computer part is dependent of others, it's not always a simple matter of " double old crap is better than new crap" .
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So ermmm.... what you are tying to say is that SLI in 2001 IS the same as SLI in 2013? .... If that's what you are saying, then i am sorry i can't take you serious... You're not worth the argument mister redface.gif

you can clearly see in this source below that the Titan has a thinner line compared to the 690 (which is a dual GPU) BUT it's within a margin of error... a humans eye will not be able to tell the difference in smoothness. X-fire is a different issue, but SLI is not what it used to be...
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

BF3 might run great and scale well with SLI, but majority of games might not, not as well at least. Same thing applies to frame times as they vary from game to game. Single GPU is still the best option across the board if you are playing anything else besides the big titles.
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I almost bought a Titan. I had the money, but then I looked at the performance and thought "I can pass up titan performance if I add another 670 ftw" so that's what I did. Titan is really meant for those who can't fit a 690 into an matx case who still need the best gameplay. Now, people will still buy up titan simply because nvidia says it is the best and they need some bragging rights. They will also get mad when a better product is released shortly after. IMO Titan is a waste of money, if I can have the same if not better performance for a better price point, than why not? Or am I missing something?

You're missing the wider definition of "performance". It's not just about fps numbers and benchmark results, it's about good gaming experience. For me, that means smooth gaming with little to no tweaking.

BTW, I was exactly the same on Titan release. I had everything set for purchase, read the reviews and thought the price was simply too much for the performance. I ordered a pair of GTX 670 FTW's, but the order got messed up and then I got a relatively good deal on a second hand Titan. I'm really glad it went that way, because the Titan plays games better than I thought by reading reviews.
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BF3 might run great and scale well with SLI, but majority of games might not, not as well at least. Same thing applies to frame times as they vary from game to game. Single GPU is still the best option across the board if you are playing anything else besides the big titles.

You care to list those games you say won't scale well? If you do then i'll do a benchmark on those games single card Vs dual cards... I have done a lot of benching, and i always get about 94% and above scaling in SLI....

And btw, anything else besides the big titles will run on a Potato lol... Kingdom of Amalur (my favorite game) runs at 174fps AVG with a single 660 (non TI) tongue.gif
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You care to list those games you say won't scale well? If you do then i'll do a benchmark on those games single card Vs dual cards... I have done a lot of benching, and i always get about 94% and above scaling in SLI....

And btw, anything else besides the big titles will run on a Potato lol... Kingdom of Amalur (my favorite game) runs at 174fps AVG with a single 660 (non TI) tongue.gif

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When I bough my motherboard, I asked myself if i should get a SLI enabled one or just stick with a lower price range mobo. So I bought a board with only 1 PCIe16X because in my mind, SLI configs were overkill for 1920*1080@60Hz gaming... I bought a 680 and now i'm screwed because an overclocked 680 (currently 1200MHz) can't get a recent game running at max settings with V-Sync on.
So what are my options now ? I'm stuck with a single PCIe16X motherboard, A 500W PSU (cause it's enough for one 680) and a 680 that cost me an arm. If I choose to go for a SLI config i would spend 200 on a new mobo, 100 on a new PSU and 500 on a new 680 . that's 800 possibly diminished by the selling of the old parts. let's say I bough the mobo and psu for 80 each and selling them for 50 (cause there not that old) Upgrading my rig is going to cost 700.
Option 2 is to sell the 680 and get a titan. 1000 - 400 = 600. Cheaper for me to get a titan.
Now the performance of 2 gtx680 is better than a single titan but on a single 1920*1080 does it make a difference ? in 2 - 3 years wouln't I be better with a titan or a 680 sli considering the performance of a titan SLI over 2GB 680 Quad sli ? What about the future games and the VRam utilization increase ?

Early adoption can cause headaches ... Because a computer part is dependent of others, it's not always a simple matter of " double old crap is better than new crap" .

Ok, you do have a point here
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You're missing the wider definition of "performance". It's not just about fps numbers and benchmark results, it's about good gaming experience. For me, that means smooth gaming with little to no tweaking.

BTW, I was exactly the same on Titan release. I had everything set for purchase, read the reviews and thought the price was simply too much for the performance. I ordered a pair of GTX 670 FTW's, but the order got messed up and then I got a relatively good deal on a second hand Titan. I'm really glad it went that way, because the Titan plays games better than I thought by reading reviews.

Nice, I would have considered Titan if it were in the 600-700 range.
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Arma 3 and Project CARS

I can't find those games to buy lol... how old are they?
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I can't find those games to buy lol... how old are they?
They have not really come out yet. tongue.gif
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I can't find those games to buy lol... how old are they?

Project CARS is the best looking game on the market period. However you can't buy it anymore (should change soon, but hundreds of thousands already bought the thing...).

ARMA 3 can be bought on steam and played without any problems but it hasn't officially released. : http://store.steampowered.com/app/107410/?l=english

Both are big Titles that need lots of GPU power, they might not have 100% launched yet but you can play them. And here's where multi GPU falls apart. Unless something is really mainstream, has a full release and has been hyped up there's a good chance you wont have the support. There are products out there that don't support multi GPU configurations and look great.
 
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