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^^ Nvidia has superior drivers, which is worth the premium IMO.

Nvidia drivers has superior drivers in your opinion. The rest of us with a more balanced view can see that both Nvidia and AMD have driver issues that they work hard to fix.

I would say Nvidia def have the quieter cards this gen but that's about it, price, performance, bundles goes to AMD. Ignorance is bliss though.
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Nvidia drivers has superior drivers in your opinion. The rest of us with a more balanced view can see that both Nvidia and AMD have driver issues that they work hard to fix.

I would say Nvidia def have the quieter cards this gen but that's about it, price, performance, bundles goes to AMD. Ignorance is bliss though.

agree had zero probs with amd drivers thrue the years

amd beta driver for 7990 also looking alot better when it comes to frame times and stutter.. look at that canuck review
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agree had zero probs with amd drivers thrue the years

amd beta driver for 7990 also looking alot better when it comes to frame times and stutter.. look at that canuck review

It's not beta, heck even alpha... it's a prototype driver. And it isn't due for months. Right now the 7990 is crippled by its drivers.
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Before we go on, there’s a few things that have to be laid out on the table. First and foremost, this is a prototype driver and as such, it is not meant for public consumption as there are a number of significant bugs that still have to be ironed out. In addition, AMD isn’t giving any firm timeline for the inclusion of so-called “frame pacing” into their beta drivers.

AMD isn’t anywhere close to releasing this driver to the public so buyers of the HD 7990 will likely face weeks if not months of reduced performance and stuttering

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/60843-amd-hd-7990-review-malta-arrives.html
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Regarding the topic information: The graph that represents GTX 700 series line and specs(taken from videocardz and BSN) does not seem right. Most importantly, it is stil unknown whether the Asian sources confirmed 770 and 760 specs(posted by BSN and videocardz) or were they made up?! In my opinion the latter one is a case here.

Plus, making some estimations:

1) As stated earlier, according to this: ((http://videocardz.com/41002/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-le-gtx-780-geforce-700-series-detailed)) the gap between gtx 780 and gtx 770 is too big. Since when did Nvidia start to make x80 more than 30% powerful?!

2) With Nvidia having a bunch of K20(GK110) parts doing nothing, why bother with already maxed out GK 104?

3) 770 must be at least ~15% faster compared to gtx 680(otherwise, who wants to buy another gtx 680?) which is impossible to reach with gk104.

4) Making gtx 780 be around ~30% more what GTX 680 currently offers and drop a Titan price to mid 700$ will do the trick. With this strategy Titan still has ~15% advantage over gtx 780 while costing 200-250$ more--makes sence(in marketing at least)

1) It (sadly) makes sense, as the 780 is GK110 and the 770 is GK104. They could disable some more cores, though.
2) I don't know, honestly. I think they should have made the 760ti, the 770, and the 780 GK110, like the 500 series with GF110.
3) Yep. The 680 was the best GK104 as far as I know. Read #2.
4) Yeah, I think that might be a good approach. It'd be a little hard to sell at $700 when it first comes out, but it'll drop. With the supposed specs that have been floating around for the 780, they seem to have done this.
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Nvidia drivers has superior drivers in your opinion. The rest of us with a more balanced view can see that both Nvidia and AMD have driver issues that they work hard to fix.

I would say Nvidia def have the quieter cards this gen but that's about it, price, performance, bundles goes to AMD. Ignorance is bliss though.

Nvidia driver issue example? Game needs a profile update (delivered within a few days..ie Tomb Raider)

AMD driver issue? CFX broken in many cases. Quantitative and qualitative data to back it up, showing that it actually delivers substantially less than SLI. Games that needs driver improvements? Neglected ie. Far Cry3

Sure. both have their issues though lol, but one is a paper cut while the other is bullet wound
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Sure. both have their issues though lol, but one is a paper cut while the other is bullet wound

That's a good way of putting it. The AMD stuff has for a long time now tended to be severe on their issues and leave them unfixed for ages, while the nVidia stuff tends to be pretty mild (and lasts briefly).
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1) It (sadly) makes sense, as the 780 is GK110 and the 770 is GK104. They could disable some more cores, though.
2) I don't know, honestly. I think they should have made the 760ti, the 770, and the 780 GK110, like the 500 series with GF110.
3) Yep. The 680 was the best GK104 as far as I know. Read #2.
4) Yeah, I think that might be a good approach. It'd be a little hard to sell at $700 when it first comes out, but it'll drop. With the supposed specs that have been floating around for the 780, they seem to have done this.

1) Agreed, why not take an architecture and make it a bit slower(like gtx 680 and 670). This looks like what will most likely happen here (especially if 4GB is a default ram standard on GTX 770)
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Nvidia driver issue example? Game needs a profile update (delivered within a few days..ie Tomb Raider)

AMD driver issue? CFX broken in many cases. Quantitative and qualitative data to back it up, showing that it actually delivers substantially less than SLI. Games that needs driver improvements? Neglected ie. Far Cry3

Sure. both have their issues though lol, but one is a paper cut while the other is bullet wound

How quickly you forget eh. Nvidia has had it's fair share of frame stutter and latency problems, in fact the 600 series was dogged for it for a long time.. You conveniently forget though yeah (: Yup Tomb Raider was bad, so was the driver that actually caused GTX 590's to explode... Great stuff from the Green Team.

Take a browse on the 'Nvidia' support forums to see driver issues that people experience. https://forums.geforce.com/default/board/33/

I'm sure you could google more, but let me help http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Nvidia+driver+problems

AMD and Nvidia both work hard to fix issues. If it makes you feel good to pretend it's only AMD then whatever man good luck with that.
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the nVidia stuff tends to be pretty mild (and lasts briefly).
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The funny thing is that the driver that caused the 590 to have over 0.3v of fiddle room (way too much) was fixed before the cards shipped. It was never supposed to have 1.2v put through it, the stock voltages are in the 900mV range, less for idle. The review driver just lacked any sort of limits.
 
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