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Agreed, those are OpenCL results, which Nvidia sucks something fierce at currently. I believe one of the threads shows CUDA results also, and Nvidia blowing AMD out of the water of course. NV doesn't currently support OpenCL 1.2 on any hardware, which has much improved speed than 1.1.

If your referring to Folding@Home as compute, then it's a toss up. Currently on core 17, which uses openCL, AMD is "faster", but Titan and probably 780 are no slouch. Once NV releases a CUDA Just In Time compiler, Pande will be creating a CUDA based core again, and NV should retake the lead.

The titan pulls 120-140k PPD and 7970s can pull between 120-135k PPD each. You will not see pande create a new core for cuda any longer. They stated they will be focusing on opencl 1.2 and openmm 5.1 from here on until a new opencl comes about. They made it clear they wanted to create cores that are effective across as many platforms as possible, thus eliminating further cuda development.

The 780 will probably slot in @ 100-120k PPD on the new core 17s.
     
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OOPS!!!! Guru3d posted a chart including the 780 accidentally for a brief time this morning...

Can't find the chart image yet but found someone say the numbers from the Metro Last Light bench that was leaked.:

Titan 48FPS
GTX780 44 FPS
7970GHZ 34 FPS
SOURCE: Translated through google
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Agreed, those are OpenCL results, which Nvidia sucks something fierce at currently. I believe one of the threads shows CUDA results also, and Nvidia blowing AMD out of the water of course. NV doesn't currently support OpenCL 1.2 on any hardware, which has much improved speed than 1.1.

If your referring to Folding@Home as compute, then it's a toss up. Currently on core 17, which uses openCL, AMD is "faster", but Titan and probably 780 are no slouch. Once NV releases a CUDA Just In Time compiler, Pande will be creating a CUDA based core again, and NV should retake the lead.

Not only folding and CUDA but OpenCL based software that actually has dev support. I'm aware of folding performance, Titan gets around 160K overclocked and 7970 gets 130K OC'ed, my estimate is that 780 will be around 7970 level. In CUDA it should fly of course.
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post #754 of 763
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OOPS!!!! Guru3d posted a chart including the 780 accidentally for a brief time this morning...

Can't find the chart image yet but found someone say the numbers from the Metro Last Light bench that was leaked.:

Titan 48FPS
GTX780 44 FPS
7970GHZ 34 FPS
SOURCE: Translated through google

Lol the one game amd has no support for ATM. We will see in a few days though.
     
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Lol the one game amd has no support for ATM. We will see in a few days though.

The interesting part to me is that it's under 10% from the titan there wink.gif.
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The interesting part to me is that it's under 10% from the titan there wink.gif.

Lol I know, just giving you a hard time.
     
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The titan pulls 120-140k PPD and 7970s can pull between 120-135k PPD each. You will not see pande create a new core for cuda any longer. They stated they will be focusing on opencl 1.2 and openmm 5.1 from here on until a new opencl comes about. They made it clear they wanted to create cores that are effective across as many platforms as possible, thus eliminating further cuda development.

The 780 will probably slot in @ 100-120k PPD on the new core 17s.

That is no longer correct according to Vijay himself as of March 30th.

http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=24016&p=240182&hilit=cuda+jit#p240182
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I'll write a blog post on some cool new updates in OpenMM5.1, which increases the PPD in both AMD and NV, once we can finalize that code and integrate it into Core 17. In general, however, it is going to be hard to predict what will be the best GPU for FAH in the coming years. Once NVIDIA gets JIT into CUDA (which is in their roadmap), then we will likely release a pure CUDA core, which will help speed up NV GPUs, possibly making them faster than AMD GPUs in FAH.

But in general, there's a lot here that is beyond what us at FAH can control. For example, whether a vendor supports OpenCL or how fast they release the key features we need (eg JIT in CUDA) is up to them and we can't of course control how that goes.
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OOPS!!!! Guru3d posted a chart including the 780 accidentally for a brief time this morning...

Can't find the chart image yet but found someone say the numbers from the Metro Last Light bench that was leaked.:

Titan 48FPS
GTX780 44 FPS
7970GHZ 34 FPS
SOURCE: Translated through google


Wow, the GTX 780 is not far away from the Titan. This seems very interesting. Only 10% slower than a Titan thumb.gif

I still think 650$ - 700$
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That is no longer correct according to Vijay himself as of March 30th.

http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=24016&p=240182&hilit=cuda+jit#p240182

Interesting. Will really put both languages and architectures to the test. I wonder what steps AMD will take in VI to increase compute further.
     
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Wow, the GTX 780 is not far away from the Titan. This seems very interesting. Only 10% slower than a Titan thumb.gif

I still think 650$ - 700$

$500-600 bucks with some oc headroom would be interesting..
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