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I think you just have an excellent chip.. I'm perfectly stable at 1.2(or slightly less) up to 4.4GHz then I have to really crank up the volts to get it stable. 4.6GHz I can run at approx 1.28-1.30v but right at the edge of unstable.. I know my chip likes to be a bit power hungry though, so I'm never going to expect that 5.0, very sadly mad.gif

You know whats funny! I have a post similar to yours but didn't even notice yours until now that am posting this, I have the exact experience as you and probably my chip is similar to yours though mine requires level 2 (I assume that should be turbo in gigabyte boards) llc for stable overclocks. I am completely stable at 4.4ghz with 1.2v and require exactly as much vcore as you need at 4.6Ghz. The highest mine has gone is 4.9Ghz into windows. Check out my post and see whether you can relate to what am experiencing. What is your motherboard?
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I seem to have solved mine but will really know with given time (2 - 3 months). You have to really yank up the chips vcore like crazy man! I mean +0.060v between prime stable clocks. That's if you are stable at 4.4Ghz with say 1.24v you might just need 1.3v or 1.308 for 4.5Ghz.
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that doesnt seem like a bad OC to me.
i need 1.33V for my 4.5GHz to be stable...

atm i am at 4.4GHZ @MAX1.288V (offset +0.040)
temps stay around 65C, max (after 6hr stress) 72C.

the same thing happened to me when playing LoL and GW2.
i ran repairs on the clients, which didnt work. :\

my LLC is on ultra high... i just followed the "ivy bridge, asus mobo" guide, for the most part.
phase control is on extreme. (optimized wouldnt work)

anyway, when i flashed my bios, configured my OC again, enabled c1e, put c3/c6 on auto.

i havent had a game crash since...

give it 0.005 more offset... see if that helps.
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My 3570k needs 1.27v for 4.5 and at 4.6 needs 1.32v which raises temps past my liking. Not all CPUs are the same so you need to find what your chip needs, not what someone else says theirs needs.
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You know whats funny! I have a post similar to yours but didn't even notice yours until now that am posting this, I have the exact experience as you and probably my chip is similar to yours though mine requires level 2 (I assume that should be turbo in gigabyte boards) llc for stable overclocks. I am completely stable at 4.4ghz with 1.2v and require exactly as much vcore as you need at 4.6Ghz. The highest mine has gone is 4.9Ghz into windows. Check out my post and see whether you can relate to what am experiencing. What is your motherboard?




I have the ASRock Extreme6 Mobo. I believe it's 8+4 phase but I'm not sure offhand.. I'll check out your page when I get some titme to get back on the comp(it's just about impossible to browse this site on mobile >_<.. )

Cmdrdredd- I'll keep that in mind, but if his is acting near identicle to mine up to said points, I can expect atleast somewhat similar results, theoretically.

Ergoproxy-I'll see about that. It's still the OEM BIOS so flashing and/or updating it might solve some bugs I've been having but I just couldn't be bothered to go through all of it yet.. Call me lazy if ya want ;-P biggrin.gif
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Your voltages are considerably higher than what is reported by software. ASRock ext4 and ext6 both have voltage issues and the issue is exacerbated by using a higher LLC. I would highly caution you to move down to a lower clock and lower your LLC unless you are overclocking with a DMM at your side. More information can be obtained here: Sin0822 Review, scroll down to the video. I would not be surprised one bit to find out that your current settings have your chip running 1.400+

Sorry to be the bearer of bad new. I have an extreme4, so I am in the same boat, and can duplicate Sin0822's results with only minor variation in overage.
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I have the ASRock Extreme6 Mobo. I believe it's 8+4 phase but I'm not sure offhand.. I'll check out your page when I get some titme to get back on the comp(it's just about impossible to browse this site on mobile >_<.. )

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I hadn't noticed it but you need to prime with v27.9, v25.11 doesn't test for avx instructions present in the ivy chip so no matter what prime v25.11 reports, you will still NOT be stable

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Your voltages are considerably higher than what is reported by software. ASRock ext4 and ext6 both have voltage issues and the issue is exacerbated by using a higher LLC. I would highly caution you to move down to a lower clock and lower your LLC unless you are overclocking with a DMM at your side. More information can be obtained here: Sin0822 Review, scroll down to the video. I would not be surprised one bit to find out that your current settings have your chip running 1.400+

Sorry to be the bearer of bad new. I have an extreme4, so I am in the same boat, and can duplicate Sin0822's results with only minor variation in overage.

It not the way the bios initializes the processor settings? I believe a bios update can correct that. I am on a gigabyte board and with bios F16, I rack up WHEA errors at 4.5Ghz at 1.284v but when I updated to F18C, I have none at all no matter what I throw at my PC. I also have past experiences where updating the bios in gigabyte boards I previously owned helped push past a GHz barrier, so I won't be surprised if with much later bios revision down the line, I can prime stable at 4.9Ghz
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It not the way the bios initializes the processor settings? I believe a bios update can correct that. I am on a gigabyte board and with bios F16, I rack up WHEA errors at 4.5Ghz at 1.284v but when I updated to F18C, I have none at all no matter what I throw at my PC. I also have past experiences where updating the bios in gigabyte boards I previously owned helped push past a GHz barrier, so I won't be surprised if with much later bios revision down the line, I can prime stable at 4.9Ghz

I can only say for sure that it is the ASRock boards, and only the extreme4 and extreme6 that have the overvoltage issues. This was primarily directed at the O.P. who is on an extreme6. If you look on the BIOS update page, they have implemented a "fix" several iterations back, but it does not fix the issue with overvoltage and LLC. Gigabyte as far as I know does not have the same issues. The prudent action would be to purchase a DMM and keep it handy when overclocking high voltage/high speeds.
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Your voltages are considerably higher than what is reported by software. ASRock ext4 and ext6 both have voltage issues and the issue is exacerbated by using a higher LLC. I would highly caution you to move down to a lower clock and lower your LLC unless you are overclocking with a DMM at your side. More information can be obtained here: Sin0822 Review, scroll down to the video. I would not be surprised one bit to find out that your current settings have your chip running 1.400+

Sorry to be the bearer of bad new. I have an extreme4, so I am in the same boat, and can duplicate Sin0822's results with only minor variation in overage.

so assuming a .07v increase from read to actual, what would be a good max to get stability in the 4.7ghz+ areas? 1.330? that will keep it at the technical 1.4v max limits I've been hearing for a 24/7(recommended less for lifespan, etc, i know). Along with dropping the LLC to lvl 2 to see if that helps stability. Sorry for the long delay, but I've barely had time to even check my email in quite some time.
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