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Is there not an all-in-one thingy one can set up without the 984938938493 steps?
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No. When it comes to installing codecs and whatnot, I prefer doing it manually.

Edit: I'll think about it.
Edit2: I thought about it. In the end, doing it manually is the best, most modular, hassle free way of doing it. This is a specialized guide, and it will be treated as such.
Edited by airisom2 - 1/29/14 at 5:22pm
post #123 of 774
Doesnt really with 1080p videos

any tips?

Thanks

EDIT: Fixed it, it reset my gpu settings to iGPU
post #124 of 774

The latest madvr has so many new options - and a new (but extremely taxing) upscaling algorithm.

 

SVP with Jinc3 maxes out my 7970 though - does anyone here have dual cards they could use to try to see if it is possible to split the load?

 

I can run NNEDI3 without SVP, but that obviously is far from ideal and the smoothness of SVP (especially for real-life TV/movies) is far preferable to a better upscaling algorithm. 

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Well, I've been playing around with the newest MadVR for some time, and the upscaling algorithms don't really make any changes to the quality of the video. The only one that has a noticeable change is bilinear, and that just makes it slightly blurrier. You'd probably have to zoom in super close into the video to see any notable changes between the upscaling algorithms. I messed around with the image doubling, and whatever setting I chose, I couldn't find any quality differences at all. Artifact removal also doesn't really do anything, and I haven't tested deinterlacing becasue I don't need it. I just leave them at default. There's no point in putting unnecessary load on your rig if there isn't any difference, unless you want some placebo action.

Although the updated MadVR has more features, most of them aren't really needed, and/or don't make much of a difference at all.

Right now, I'm in the process of finding a stable nightly build of MPC-BE. I think the one I added on the guide is unstable on video playback since I had some black screens and scene freezes while the audio was still playing. I also had problems where the whole screen would turn grey, and I had to reboot my computer to get out of it and the screen freezes/blackscreens. So far, the newest one, rev. 4624, seems to be doing okay, and I've had no problems with it so far, but I still need to test it with different types of videos before finalizing.
Edited by airisom2 - 3/14/14 at 5:34am
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I have to agree that the difference is small, but I've noticed that in high-quality anime it is noticeable in a A-B comparison with lossless screenshots. The lines are (seemingly) not blurred at all in NNEDI3 32 compared to Jinc3, and there is less haloing. I don't know how noticeable this is practice, but it is still an improvement. The processing option also helps banding a bit.

 

This effect is lost in low-quality (badly encoded) anime, and I have no idea how good it is for real-life movies. I suspect the increased clarity should help detail, but haven't got anything to test that theory with.

 

Of course, the above options max out my GPU and prevent the use of SVP, so unless I can use more than one NNEDI3 really isn't a viable option. Small improvements are better than no improvements after all.

 

 

Is MPC-BE better than MPC-HE in terms of features? The latter has everything I want, but then so did VLC at one point.

post #127 of 774
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Well, I can't see a difference. I guess it's only noticeable on certain stuff, and I watch a lot of stuff. Using Sharpening in FFDShow is a much better alternative for me, and it doesn't drop performance like the processing options in MadVR.

MPC-BE has a whole lot more features than MPC-HC, and it's more actively developed than MPC-HC (1 or 2 revisions per day on average, kinda like Dolphin Emulator). Although MPC-HC overshadows it when it comes to its userbase, MPC-BE is better in every aspect. Right now, the rev. 4624 is pretty stable for me.
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I got everything installed but when i go to set the output to reclock mpc locks up and crashes everytime i select it.
    
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It's definitely better (i.e. not just placebo) but also definitely falls into the (don't bother unless you have spare resources anyway" category, which I don't thanks to SVP.

 

I'll definitely give MPC-BE a look when I have some spare time, it sounds interesting.

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Just did a screen capture comparision between bicubic75, jinc3, and nnedi32. Bicubic and jinc looked identical, while nnedi32 looks a tiny bit better when it comes to chroma clarity and positioning. I can only see the difference with a screen capture, though, and the difference is negligible. Then again, add a bit of sharpening, and it looks better than any setting combination on MadVR with no performance loss, as the following pics show (open in new tab for full size). Comparisons (Click to show)
Bicubic 75



Jinc 3




NNEDI 32





Bicubic 75, Sharpening


Jinc 3, Sharpening


NNEDI32, Sharpening


720p source. For sharpening, I used FFDShow Video Raw's SWScaler with the Luma at 1.61 and Chroma at 0.
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