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post #11 of 20
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Originally Posted by JadedPrimate View Post

I can third the CM 690 II Advanced. It is very roomy and practical.

It all depends though on what you want. What are you looking for in a case? What are you planning to do with it? What are the minimum options it should have?

The reason why i mentioned the 690 is to provide a middle ground. The Enforcer is very small compared to the 600T. The 690 sort of hits right in the middle. Can't argue with the key factor which is what the customer preference is or what the customer needs are.
post #12 of 20
692 Advanced is one of the few Cooler Master cases I would buy. I'd swap the gaudy light up fans in a heartbeat though. wink.gif

I have had a HDD go bad in the 690. It happened to have important simulations.thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif
Edited by AlphaC - 4/26/13 at 3:59pm
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I belive the answer you seek would be in the design and standards itself. This is from my experience with coolermaster, I bought a seidon 120 and the fan bearings failed in 2 weeks. I have had my corsair sp 120 fans for a while now and have never had any voltage or any issues with them. I also like the custom designs they add to even just a basic fan. The rubber for vibration, the special bearings, blade design, and custom color rings. There cases have come a long way with lots of options. Ive read both reviews and can say at least 690 is compariable. However the custom case work and detail that went into the new 900d is fantastic. The new digital link PSU is a great idea, as well as there new I series devices and closed loop systems. I think corsair link is a good idea and cool that you can check all your devices from software, you can choose custom colors to fit your taste. Again this is just my opinion, but at least I do own a seidon 120. I had to swap the fans out though becuase the provided coolermaster fan sucks.
Edited by Jedson3614 - 4/26/13 at 7:04pm
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post #14 of 20
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Originally Posted by AndyM95 View Post

The 600T is way better and is definitely worth the extra money.
  • It has rubber grommets
  • Support for full length graphics cards without removing the hard-drive cages (Storm Enforcer doesn't)
  • Looks better (my opinion)
  • Has a fan controller
  • Great support for radiators if you want to water-cool in the future
  • Easy remove side panel
  • Removable dust filters for all fans (apart from rear)
  • Modular hard-drive cages
  • More room behind behind motherboard tray for cables
  • Better airflow

I could go on thumb.gif
Video overviews, they give you a very good idea of features.

Corsair 600T
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLCwBkf4o94
CM Storm Enforcer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkjBhgKsD0U


Corsair 600T just have a few problems. Front Fan is too close to the metal mesh grill (same issue in 650D).
bad fan controller (high failure rate). they might have fixed it by now but I haven't read about it.

Corsair 600T Front Fan Whine - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiPhG3fF3os

600T SE: Front Fan Noise
http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=99103

BitFenix 200mm specter PRO LED into Corsair 600t - Intake
http://www.bitfenix.com/global/en/forums/3,tech-talk/660,how-to-bitfenix-200mm-specter-pro-led-into-corsair-600t-intake/

Corsair 600T Fan noise
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?p=21034168



corsair 600T fan speed controller problem
http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=93078

Corsair cases with fan controller, unreliable? 600T
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1669174

Corsair 600T SE Fan Controller problem
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2172957


Had to replace all the fans in a 650D ($60+ worth of fans) to equal the noise level and move as much air as my stock HAF 932.



CM 690 II Advanced USB 3.0 Black ATX Mid Tower Case (Refurbished) $42.50 at CM with code "MLFTW13" + shipping

COSMOS 1000 Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower (New) $136 AC
http://www.cmstore-usa.com/cosmos-1000-black-aluminum-atx-full-tower/

Cosmos II Ultra Tower Case ($300 @newegg) - Refurbished $170 AC
http://www.cmstore-usa.com/cosmos-ii-ultra-tower-case-atx-micro-atx-extend-atx-200mm-led-fan-120mm-fan-usb-3-0-refurbished/
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post #15 of 20
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Originally Posted by Heuchler View Post

Corsair 600T just have a few problems. Front Fan is too close to the metal mesh grill (same issue in 650D).
bad fan controller (high failure rate). they might have fixed it by now but I haven't read about it.

Corsair 600T Front Fan Whine - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiPhG3fF3os

600T SE: Front Fan Noise
http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=99103

BitFenix 200mm specter PRO LED into Corsair 600t - Intake
http://www.bitfenix.com/global/en/forums/3,tech-talk/660,how-to-bitfenix-200mm-specter-pro-led-into-corsair-600t-intake/

Corsair 600T Fan noise
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?p=21034168



corsair 600T fan speed controller problem
http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=93078

Corsair cases with fan controller, unreliable? 600T
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1669174

Corsair 600T SE Fan Controller problem
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2172957


Had to replace all the fans in a 650D ($60+ worth of fans) to equal the noise level and move as much air as my stock HAF 932.



CM 690 II Advanced USB 3.0 Black ATX Mid Tower Case (Refurbished) $42.50 at CM with code "MLFTW13" + shipping

COSMOS 1000 Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower (New) $136 AC
http://www.cmstore-usa.com/cosmos-1000-black-aluminum-atx-full-tower/

Cosmos II Ultra Tower Case ($300 @newegg) - Refurbished $170 AC
http://www.cmstore-usa.com/cosmos-ii-ultra-tower-case-atx-micro-atx-extend-atx-200mm-led-fan-120mm-fan-usb-3-0-refurbished/

Biased much?

Me and all my buddies that own the 600T have never had any of those issue you mentioned above. Of course I have heard of them but the fixes are fairly easy.

The stock corsair fan is not loud, on the contrary it barely pushes any air making most of us either upgrade to a megaflow or just modding the case to fit more powerful CFM fans.

The fan controller issue was resolved about 18 months ago with the new revision.

Those links you posted are severely outdated, hardware always has a chance of being defective, as time progresses companys do their fixes and the problems disappear.

And last but not least, there is a reason why the 600T is one of the best (if not the best) mid tower money can buy. Go read some reviews thumb.gif
Edited by Maiky - 4/27/13 at 4:03pm
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Originally Posted by Maiky View Post

Biased much?

Me and all my buddies that own the 600T have never had any of those issue you mentioned above. Of course I have heard of them but the fixes are fairly easy.

The stock corsair fan is not loud, on the contrary it barely pushes any air making most of us either upgrade to a megaflow or just modding the case to fit more powerful CFM fans.

The fan controller issue was resolved about 18 months ago with the new revision.

Those links you posted are severely outdated, hardware always has a chance of being defective, as time progresses companys do their fixes and the problems disappear.

And last but not least, there is a reason why the 600T is one of the best (if not the best) mid tower money can buy. Go read some reviews thumb.gif

what was biased about anything I said? was anything not true. I buy both Corsair and Cooler Master products.
seems like you know a lot about the 600T, so can you please tell me what company makes it for Corsair.


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Originally Posted by Heuchler View Post

Corsair 600T just have a few problems. Front Fan is too close to the metal mesh grill (same issue in 650D).
bad fan controller (high failure rate). they might have fixed it by now but I haven't read about it.:
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post #17 of 20
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what was biased about anything I said? was anything not true. I buy both Corsair and Cooler Master products.
seems like you know a lot about the 600T, so can you please tell me what company makes it for Corsair.


Not sure who makes the "Plastic/Steel" molds for the 600T, that is totally irrelevant in this discussion.

My point is that you posted a bunch of outdated links steering the OP away from an almost flawless case.

Coolermaster makes great cases no doubt, and the CM links you posted at the bottom of your post are great deals. I was just trying to point out that the 600T issues that you posted have already been resolved. I would also like to point out the the 600T is not the best case for "Air-Cooling" which is the only downside I see ATM. This normally is resolved my modding the case.
post #18 of 20
You know who does suck in my opinion royally GIGABYTE, I will never buy a product from them again. I have both z77x-ud5h, and windforce gtx 670, the fans on the 670 are screwed up at specific fan curves, and the motherboard is balls. Bios sucks, and with latest bios my keybpard doesnt even work, it worked on previous bioses, what a step backwards. the video card cant go above 50 percent fan speed or it whines. Ive alread oiled the bearing and it still does it. I havnt even owned this crap a year and it gets worse as time goes on.
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antecv gx700b cases are great
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You know who does suck in my opinion royally GIGABYTE, I will never buy a product from them again. I have both z77x-ud5h, and windforce gtx 670, the fans on the 670 are screwed up at specific fan curves, and the motherboard is balls. Bios sucks, and with latest bios my keybpard doesnt even work, it worked on previous bioses, what a step backwards. the video card cant go above 50 percent fan speed or it whines. Ive alread oiled the bearing and it still does it. I havnt even owned this crap a year and it gets worse as time goes on.
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