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Poll Results: Are you getting Haswell this year, and upgrading from what?

This is a multiple choice poll
  • 16% of voters (94)
    yes
  • 51% of voters (299)
    no
  • 7% of voters (45)
    from IB to Haswell
  • 10% of voters (61)
    from SB to Haswell
  • 18% of voters (110)
    from pre-SB to Haswell
  • 9% of voters (53)
    from AMD to Haswell
583 Total Votes  
post #241 of 358
Idle power usuage may indeed be very low on haswell but even LGA2011 6 core chips can downclock if u have it active. Granted having power saving active along with a OC can be a PITA to achieve but still.

My 3930k is OCed to 3.6ghz on a offset OC, with 2 of the 4 C-States still active it means i can downlock to 1.2ghz and 0.8v. Idle power draw is relativly low (~38w on the CPU).***
That said if ur worried about load power draw then the 3930k and above are not for you. They are massive power hogs, 250-300w with my OC (again just the CPU draw)

The other ting about haswel is the heat. The OC figures are lower than Ivy, as was Ivy figures lower than Sandy, but they can do more on lower clocks.
A Sandy on 4.6ghz 'should' be roughly equal to a Haswell on 4.2ghz. Though this is theory, i have yet to see an exact comparison.
I do know that a 4770k is roughly 200mhz faster than a 3770k going by TTL's review (4.6 on haswell just about beat a 4.8 Ivy, and since Ivy is about 200mhz faster than sandy u can work things put from there)


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post #242 of 358
From the various reviews I have seen, 15-20 percent is not realistic. Also, hitting 5ghz on a Haswell chip will require some serious cooling. I have a 2600k that will do 5Ghz on air. The 3770k came out with a minor performance bump over Sandy bridge but with a big increase in temps (either due to die shrink, bad TIM, whatever). Haswell has come out with again, a minor performance bump and again a significant increase in temps. HardOCP indicated that north of 4.3 on air just wasn't realistic.
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post #243 of 358
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Originally Posted by Robilar View Post

From the various reviews I have seen, 15-20 percent is not realistic. Also, hitting 5ghz on a Haswell chip will require some serious cooling. I have a 2600k that will do 5Ghz on air. The 3770k came out with a minor performance bump over Sandy bridge but with a big increase in temps (either due to die shrink, bad TIM, whatever). Haswell has come out with again, a minor performance bump and again a significant increase in temps. HardOCP indicated that north of 4.3 on air just wasn't realistic.

It's will not require serious cooling at all after Delid, just like IVY, we've got plenty of experience in this.. -20C after delid, pretty much in the bag thumb.gif
post #244 of 358
Nope,No,Nah,Not,Never............ ETC
     
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post #245 of 358
Already ordered, its about time I got myself an Intel CPU

The prices are actually ok, and more or less on a par with what I would have spent on an IVY setup. maybe £10-20 more but that's not a massive thing.

Plus that ASUS Gryphon will look very nice in my green box smile.gif
    
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post #246 of 358
While I find delidding fascinating and actually did a couple of chips a few years ago, I can guarantee you that you are in a microscopic minority of chip owners that will delid their cpu's. There are only a couple of dozen guys on this entire site that delid cpu's and we have thousands of members that are actually looking to overclock and push the hardware to it limits. Add in Hardforums, Anand's forums and Xtremesystems and you might still only have a couple of hundred guys globally that would do it.

The fact that we need to take a cpu apart (voiding warranty in the process) just to get decent temps drives me nuts mad.gif
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post #247 of 358
I would like to....but its hard for me to switch from my nice 990x that I spent 1000 bucks on to something that while may be quicker, its not really needed...



Unless of course someone wants to take my 990x, mobo, and ram off my hands for me.....
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post #248 of 358
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robilar View Post

While I find delidding fascinating and actually did a couple of chips a few years ago, I can guarantee you that you are in a microscopic minority of chip owners that will delid their cpu's. There are only a couple of dozen guys on this entire site that delid cpu's and we have thousands of members that are actually looking to overclock and push the hardware to it limits. Add in Hardforums, Anand's forums and Xtremesystems and you might still only have a couple of hundred guys globally that would do it.

The fact that we need to take a cpu apart (voiding warranty in the process) just to get decent temps drives me nuts mad.gif


Ahhumm...

I realize you're a mod, and I have the greatest respect for you and the community

Don't take this in the wrong way...... But.. I must say what I'm about to say to emphasize the ---OVERCLOCKING--- in OCN.


If you don't delid, then Fvk you.. biggrin.gif
post #249 of 358
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Originally Posted by tp4tissue View Post

I really want to upgrade, because I feel like a 5ghz haswell vs my 5ghz sandy will be maybe ~15 to 20% increase in minimum-FPS in games ? maybe?rolleyes.gif

I don't think you're going to see that much of a difference in most games... Maybe 0-15% with most games falling in at 2-5%. Generally, upgrading a [substantial] processor doesn't help your framerate much. There are a few games that will love the new architecture, Crysis 3 for example, but even in that I wouldn't expect to see anywhere near 20% in minimum frames. However... I'd love to see you test it to get some real numbers!
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From the various reviews I have seen, 15-20 percent is not realistic. Also, hitting 5ghz on a Haswell chip will require some serious cooling. I have a 2600k that will do 5Ghz on air. The 3770k came out with a minor performance bump over Sandy bridge but with a big increase in temps (either due to die shrink, bad TIM, whatever). Haswell has come out with again, a minor performance bump and again a significant increase in temps. HardOCP indicated that north of 4.3 on air just wasn't realistic.

My chip will do 4.7GHz on water but for the life of me, I can't get 4.8GHz stable. A delid would definitely help but from what we save on Ivy--delidding seriously lowered the max frequencies obtainable on LN2. I'll let someone else try it first!
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post #250 of 358
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I don't think anyone from SB or Ivy needs to upgrade unless they need the new iGPU.

.

This part of Intel's strategy makes zero sense. I mean why put the best IGPU on the higher end chips when people using these chips will 99% of the time use discrete video? Also buy a Haswell fo IGPU over an APU is nuts!
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