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Yeah I was thinking the same thing it's just so hard to tell.

     
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I haven't found anything promising. Heard anything yet?

     
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not sure if its worth mentioning but i just remembered how there are like VCR adapters where you can put a smaller tape inside of it to use a VCR. by no means the most ideal capture method not to mention how hard it might be finding one lol.

i did hear back from my friend and i sent him everything from your threads and he has no experience working with an external capture card similar to what you have. he highly suggested if you can find one, used or cheap new, or get your hands on an internal card that goes in your computer in the slots similar to a sound card except its for video. Primarily, the issue he mentioned concerns the software that comes with all of these external capture cards. A lot of them work and do what they are supposed to from a hardware standpoint. The issue is how they handle and capture the video in the software apparently. A lot of the more affordable video software seems to not handle video files very well and when you start working with old tape and potentially spotty time code and glitches from cheaper older cameras that record in less efficient codecs you quickly will start hitting issues where the software struggles with the incoming footage. Despite capturing via RCA cables, some other problems that you encounter can come from minimizing the software while it is recording. i know from personal experience when capturing tape via FCP that if i minimized it would stop the process which means you do need to keep the capture active. Ideally, you would want to capture directly into your editing platform for the best workflow. When you start adding 3rd party software that doesnt directly communicate with your editing platform you can risk having issues later on with goofy versions or formats that seem ok until you try to open the files, usually not a common problem but is possible. if you havent already tried, see if you can bypass the software that came with the capture card and try and capture using your editing software. The other issue that can be a problem is if the camera itself is worn out or if the tape heads are dirty which can cause issues with the computer recognizing a constant steady signal. my friend isnt really able to make much suggestions on affordable internal cards but the thing is you pretty much bypass extra software and gain a direct capture ability. you would need to check with your editing software to check compatibility for capturing the footage

the highest suggested alternative to a professional tape deck would be similar to this. blackmagic is a great brand that many use http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/598248-REG/Blackmagic_Design_BDLKSDI_DeckLink_SDI_PCI_Express.html

also i recent used this exact capture card while working in Alabama last week and it works excellently and is a solid brand as well http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/625264-REG/Elgato_Systems_10020840_Video_Capture_USB_Analog.html
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That elagato will import to H264 (if so what are the max bit rates you ca go to it looks like 1.4 mbps)? It says it does but you've used it so I'm just wondering if it actually did.


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i used it for live internet streaming of sports. I was impressed by the quality as well as ease of use. It was used directly into a live webcast production software developed by the company i did the work for.

if you watch some of their recent live stuff you can see one way it was used for. I know for a fact it was used for alabama softball championship as i was there and helped produce those broadcasts thumb.gif

here is a link to a game that i produced. this game was done with a single sony camcorder with a feed running into the elgatto and then the announcers were running through a mixer that also went into it as well and then was broadcast live on the internet using a verizon 4G wifi hotspot. if i remember correctly the bitrate of the broadcast was in the 800kbps area so not even the max quality the capture card was capable of. Also this was all done with a cheap Dell laptop and i3 cpu biggrin.gif http://www.playonsports.com/channels/alabama/events/59969
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post #37 of 41
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Not bad I'll just have to max the bitrate out. The sad part is the picture from these tapes looks better. Does it have any b-frame and motion prediction options (specifically pyramidal b-frames and uneven multi-hexagonal prediction)? Just to try and decrease on the file size a bit while getting the best picture possible.

     
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Not bad I'll just have to max the bitrate out. The sad part is the picture from these tapes looks better. Does it have any b-frame and motion prediction options (specifically pyramidal b-frames and uneven multi-hexagonal prediction)? Just to try and decrease on the file size a bit while getting the best picture possible.

you shouldnt have to worry too much with a bitrate that low unless you have hundreds of hours of footage. also working in 4:3 will save you some file size on if working with a large amount of footage. high quality footage these days is about 15-25 mbps. I am actually recording in HD at 25mbps on my current job which saves me a lot of space with no apparent change in overall quality as the camera offers the ability to record at 50mbps
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Oh I'm not worried about the size too much; other than the fact I need it to look it's best so I can then edit it up and burn to DVD.

     
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ah ok. well its cliche to say. but the more you spend the high quality you can get but at a certain point the price gap is soo extreme that its affordable and insanely overkill for the quality you can achieve lol

i dont think its worth it but doubling your budget and going with a different more expensive card reader allows for easier use and higher quality. depending on time frame it may be possible to buy something better and return when you are done. just make sure you dont break the terms of the return policy thumb.gif
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